@mainjp said:Are we legit trying to say that Roshi is Jiren level just because he dodged him?Well, at least he can dodge, unlike a certain someone

Meh, when I read for the first time, I was thinking that both side have pretty good arguments, so I didn't know which one I would vote, but after thinking better, my vote goes to @alextheboss, I agree...

Not sure what happened in the new chapters, but if Roshi really managed to contented a serious Jiren he stomps them all, but if the moment is a outlier or have some context, I give that to the duo.

@thebestofthebest: Amazing your Posts numbers are

Hashirama solos, he is High Hyperversal, mismatch.

Damn, that sounds like a good fight, I would say that Ichigo should have the advantaged in strength and likely could Kill Sasuke with his attacks, the only problem is Sasuke's Susano'o, I mean, Madar...

@gaoron said:@joviolma:Granted I heavily dissagree with the moon level strikings in saiyan saga notionGlad we agree.he's not wrong that authors don't always care about environmental destruction and a...

@bossmountain: Looks like Mr.Troll, can't comprehend single sentencesCool, I still not knowing nothing about Superman, and I pretend to read the comics alone instead of have a troll like you going off...

@bossmountain said:@joviolma: yes it did the same hurriance force winds in the manga which is something average grenade can't doMate, the same scan that you posted only shows the grenade light, I kno...

@bossmountain said:@joviolma: " Clearly the same force of average Grenade.. everyone knows grenades can causally blow away and uproot multiple trees from a distance .Never happened in the manga, so n...

@bossmountain said:I will copy paste again since you lack the ability to read simple sentencesCool, I still not knowing nothing about Superman, and I pretend to read the comics alone instead of have ...

@thedarkpaladin: I told you that this thread would be fun :)