For this fight Emma is limited to her diamond form only.

No BFR, Morals on

Comic Versions of all Characters

Street level team: Captain America, Black Panther, Black Widow, Daredevil, And Iron Fist.

Fight takes place in a foot ball field 20 feet away from each other.

Also if the team can pin her on the ground for 15 seconds they also win.

Team. Only T’Challa would be able to hurt her via claws, but the team has ways of pinning or incapacitating her via Daredevil’s grapple and Danny being capable of knocking her around. Steve might b able to pin her to based on feats, not on paper.

@god_spawn: She’s never been incapped is diamond form. She doesn’t need to eat, breath, drink, and doesn’t feel physical or emotional pain. She has also tanked a blast from a celestial and has super strength. Not saying that the team no doesn’t win just giving a counter argument.

@emmafrostxmen: Incapacitated meaning she is in a position where she can’t fight back ala tied up, hung up, pinned down, stuck in the ground. And I know Emma quite well so her feats against the Dreaming Celestial and stuff aren’t necessary when T’Challa is capable of cutting her with his claws. With that said, she’s severely outclassed in terms of skill and speed, in terms of pure strength she should be the strongest, but her feats are quite limited to say putting her at a 2 tonner is generous. So Cap and T’Challa are more than capable of outmuscling her.

@god_spawn: T’Challa cannot cut her. While his claws and suite are more durable he doesn’t have the strength to do it.

Also she punched threw and reacted to black bolt, someone who has super strength, super speed, and super durability. And even if you say that she just used his momentum and held out her arm, earlier in inhumans vs x men she punched him in the throat so hard he couldn’t talk for the rest of the event. Someone who has taken hits from the hulk. So she will easily put muscle both captain America and black panther. But it would taker her a while to actually land a hit on them.

Again reacting to black bolt puts her reaction speed above all of these people. Not saying she wins just countering your points.

I could be wrong but Emma's diamond form is virtually indestructible. Panther could likely find a way to bypass and hurt her but I think he would need prep.

@emmafrostxmen: His claws are made of some of the sharpest material and have cut through virtually anything. He’s more than strong enough to do it. There’s nothing suggesting otherwise.

She cheap shotted Blackbolt in the throat when he was focused on Dazzler, and said cheapshot only made him rub his neck before Dazzler blasted him. She didn’t out react anyone and the writing for the entire event was terrible to begin with so take what you will from it like Psylocke being taken out by Medusa. In other showings, She also barely cracked a brick wall when fighting against Sage and Bishop and they managed to dodge her attack just fine before Bishop blasted her for hundreds of feat. She doesn’t really have any strength feats. That’s what I’m saying. On paper she is stronger than them, but characters like Steve and T’Challa have feats putting them over her very few striking feats. She’s got a lot of very good durability ones, though.

And one feat doesn’t dictate her speed overall, either. I’ll say she’s ridiculously fast in shift speed and has reacted to bullets on 3 separate occasions fired by Cops, Bishop, and another one I’m trying to remember. She’s not slow, but she’s not these guys’ level of speed. On top of that she isn’t remotely as skilled to make up for it. And aside from that, she isn’t putting T’Challa down in his suit, and she isn’t hitting harder than most of them except for Nat. It may take awhile, but the team is more than skilled and smart enough to come up with something.

Team handily. Emma is way outclassed in skill, I don't see her being able to land blows. They could incapacitate her with some time

@god_spawn: Yea sure it was PIS but Emma turned around as black bolt was moving. So she did out react him. She stopped walking shifted to diamond and held her arm out. Sure they are faster but no one here has outreacted a guy with superspeed.

Emma is over 2x stronger than both black panther and captain America so I doubt they can hold her down.(her cannon strength says 2 tons). And durability wise no one here can hurt her.

The main reason Emma doesn’t have a lot of striking feats is because she usually uses her telepathy instead of shifting to her diamond form.

@emmafrostxmen: Then it was PIS. Just because it happened doesn’t necessarily make it any less consistent. And she punched someone that was still distracted. That’s not outreacting anyone. That doesn’t do her any justice. They have both also fought and tagged Spider-Man on a couple of occasions. Tagged Wolverine, someone supposedly with low level super speed. Cap tagged Gambit, someone with super speed and reflexes. So a sucker punch on BlackBolt isn’t that impressive.

And I already mentioned she is on paper stronger, at 2 tons, however, her on panel feats don’t put her there either, and her striking is worse. And both together are capable of managing fine. Cap’s thrown hundreds of pounds of concrete and T’Challa has wrestled down rhinos. These guys together can at least manage physically with her.

@god_spawn: World War Hulk couldn’t hurt her. He had to shove her into the ground so she couldn’t move. I highly doubt these two can do the same.

If anyone tries to hold her down she can easily push them off her her strength well is above both captain America and black panther together so how would they hold her down.

I get that maybe she doesn’t have as many feats but she is still factually stronger than them both combined.

Also while she did sucker punch black bolt. She also managed to hurt him. Black bolt has also went h2h with the hulk. Therefore her hurting him and having her punch do that much damage is a very impressive feat.

What are Emma Frost H2H feats??? Because the Street Level Team could take her down collectively.

Diamond form will be a challenge for the Team, but I don't that causes much concern. I'm sure the team can by pass that.

@mooty_pass: Emma has super strength in diamond form. And she is virtually indestructible. She has also never been incapped in diamond form before. She tanked a blast from a celestial and only lost an arm. Maybe they could find a way to get her down for 20 seconds but I don’t see any way for them to incap her. She doesn’t need to eat, breath, sleep, she doesn’t get fatigued, doesn’t need water, and doesn’t feel physical or emotional pain.

Scans for that?

Um I don't think you can say she tanked a Blast from a Celestial if she lost an arm. That just say her diamond form isn't strong enough BECAUSE she lost an arm.

And OOOOOH your not supposed to debate in your own thread LOL

@mooty_pass: I am on my phone right now so I can’t give you scans. The same blast that hit her also hit colossus. And it BFR’ed him into another state with a huge gaping hole in his chest. If that blast hit anyone else it would have decinagrated them instantly her only losing an arm is an extremely high end durability feat.

Also her strength is factually 2 tons on marvels handbook. So she is like 4x stronger than Captain America or Black Panther alone.

She has also tanked hits from World War Hulk. And she is so durable that he had to slam her into the ground so she couldn’t move to take her out of the fight. I do actually have a link to that one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lowbrowcomics.com/2016/05/14/the-incredible-hulk-vs-the-x-men-world-war-hulk/amp/

And this is arguably hulk at his strongest.

So how do you think they can hurt her.

I am giving other options on how the battle could go. I never said the team doesn’t win. The team can likely all work together to eventually pin her down. I never said she wins. Just giving some feats so you know what she is capable of. So I am not debating

@mooty_pass: She has reacted to black bolt someone with super speed in her diamond form(in inhumans vs x men). The entire arc is PIS tho so I don’t really know how to treat this feat. He flew twards her and she turned diamond, held out her arm, and her arm went threw him.

https://readcomics.io/inhumans-vs-x-men/chapter-6/full

It is the 9th scan so just scroll down a little bit. It’s just a good reaction speed feat.

@mooty_pass: yea u right. She could have sensed it with telepathy and shifted into diamond quickly. I didn’t think of it like that.