This is the first round of the second edition of my high tier make a team tourney

@juiceboks

• Hercales


• Guinness


• Savior Cable


• 1 Hour of prep


• Soul Immunity

@kevd4wg

• Adam Warlock


• Vulcan


• Silver Surfer


• Bloodlusted


• Perfect Teamwork

Rules

1. Win by Death, Incap or KO.


2. Standard Gear.


3. No Time Manipulation


4. No speed steal


5. No reality warping


6. No Power Copying/stealing.


7. No BFR


8. No Summons, constructs or any other fodder stronger than 616 Bleeding Edge Iron Man. They cannot be amped either.


9. Summons, constructs or other fodder are limited to 200


10. Cloning is limited to 10

Voting Rules:

1. Vote for the better debater


2. Do not vote on which character you think you will win


3. Give reasoning to your vote.


4. I will count the total votes


5. If I feel a vote in unjustified or biased I will not count it.

Battle ground

Indestructible planet with no other people on it except for the fighters

tag plz

Tag after every post.

t4v

@juiceboks I can get a post up monday/tuesday

@emperorthanos-: Tags in the op dont work@juiceboks might not have seen this

T4V

@kevd4wg: Got it, I'll be away from my computer all day tomorrow so I'll try to get up an opener on Monday

@juiceboks: Sounds good

Team: Marvel Cosmic

I'll start with some basic introductions of my characters and then get into strategy, but before that I want to go over my two perks.

Bloodlust

This perk helps both Warlock and especially Surfer. Surfer in particular holds back a ton due to morals, in his solo series it's explained that Surfer holds back all the time. In this battle, there is no reason Surfer won't unleash his full fury with his speed, energy, and even hax.

Perfect Teamwork

Other then allowing my team to function perfectly in unison during the battle, multiple of my characters have support esque abilities that they can use in this battle to our advantage.

Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer is the "power" of my team. With his energy blasts in particular he should be fully capable of taking everyone on your team down in just a few hits. For an example, Surfer is maybe THE most consistent planet buster in comics. Just a few instances here

• Scan 1: Silver Surfer casually planet busts(Annihilation: Silver Surfer #1)


• Scan 2-3: After getting permanently amped by Galactus, Surfer once again busts a planet with ease and his power draws surprise from the person he busted the first planet on, showing he became even more powerful(Annihilation: Silver Surfer #4)

Both of these also double as durability feats for Silver Surfer as he basically no-sold the planetary explosions, which is not easy for characters on this level to do.

Next, I want to talk about Surfer's speed. Surfer is damn fast, for instance he was fully capable of bullrushing, fighting, and tagging Beta Ray Bill in hyperspace, an FTL combat speed feat.

However, this feat is even fore impressive then it first appears as it demonstrates a few other important things about Surfer. The first of which is Surfer's energy blasts easily overtaking Bill's FTL ship, which puts them at high end FTL speeds. He also uses his Board in combat, catching Bill off guard, which is an option in this battle. This battle also demonstrates his physicals well as he tanks two hits from a serious Beta Ray Bill, who hits quite hard and he makes Beta Ray Bill, who has durability comparable if not superior to the likes of Thor/Superman keel over in pain with just 3 punches.

Vulcan

Vulcan is kinda the "counter character" of my team. He offers useful counters to many different characters, some of which he'll get to use in this battle. The first thing I want to show is Vulcan's general physicals, which are perfectly exemplified from his fight with Black Bolt in War of Kings #6

He is able to capably trade blows with Black Bolt and even after getting yelled at and being reduced to basically a pile of bones and flesh, he is able to come back after a few pages and overpower Black Bolt at his best. So even though physicals aren't his strong suit, he should be able to at least do something in CQC. Fortunately, that's not why Vulcan is on my team.

A good in example of why I have Vulcan can be seen in Guardians of the Galaxy vol 2 #14. In this issue, Vulcan almost completely drains the Annihilation: Conquest version of Adam Warlock, who's basically a teambuster lvl character. More impressively he did it in seconds

He did this to the point that Adam couldn't even teleport, which is insane considering that he has such power that just the issue before in Guardians of the Galaxy vol 2 #13 he transmuted an entire planet into a metal that had not been discovered yet

I'm not sure about the Toriko characters, but I think that Vulcan should be able to at least partially drain Cable, which will power up Vulcan and leave Cable severely weakened.

Finally, I want to go over Vulcan's energy manipulation and speed, which I can fit into the same section. Vulcan was consistently able to react to Cyclops's energy blasts and manipulate them, even as a child and from a couple feet away.

This is highly impressive not only because it shows Vulcan can manipulate energy attacks back onto others, but Cyclops's energy beams have consistently been portrayed as Light Speed

So Vulcan can react to LS blasts even as a teen and from feet away.

Adam Warlock

Unfortunately since it's current versions, I can't use the more OP versions of Adam Warlock and instead I'm stuck with his golden version, but that's fine, he's still good support and a good brick. For a good physical showing, Warlock has gone toe to toe with Classic Drax, who even at his weakest can easily tangle with Hulk/Thor level beings and at his strongest is a low level teambuster.

Not only does he fight Drax, he absolutely stomps him. He tanks all of Drax's blows, matches him in strength, and in the forth scan pounds his face in WWH style and Koes him. Considering he did that to one of the most formidable herald tier bricks, I don't see why he can't do it to your characters.

Furthermore, Warlock is actually more impressive H2H as in that situation he was emotionally compromised and not using his skill, which he normally uses in CQC. For one good example of Warlock using his skill, in Thanos #2, 10 Elite Rigellion troopers amp their physicals to be superior to that of Warlock, but Warlock lol stomps them in the span of 2 pages without getting tagged once.

Along with pure H2H, Warlock has a staff which gives him some versatility as well. Just a quick rundown of it's abilities.

1. Using his staff, Warlock is able to pierce straight through Pymtron, who is made of Adamantium. Basically, Warlock proved himself able to cleave straight through several inches of Adamantium, which has some of the best piercing resist in comics(Infinity Countdown #3)


2. Warlock using his staff is able to hurt Mephisto and make him scream out in pain. Mephisto is a hell lord and one of the most powerful teambuster lvl characters in Marvel(Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection #4)


3. Warlock shows that his staff is just an extension of himself and he can create a new one at any point in time(Warlock and the Infinity Watch #24)

All of these should help against your team, but that's not all the versatility Warlock has. He has one ability that should really help in a team battle and that's the ability to heal his teammates like he did to Silver Surfer in Infinity Countdown #3

Since our team has perfect teamwork, Warlock should easily be able to pull this off if one of them gets injured in the battle.

Of course for the last thing I need to address Warlock's speed. One good feat of speed is where he dodges a near point blank energy blast from a pissed off Silver Surfer in Silver Surfer/Warlock: Ressurection #4

Then Warlock goes on to blitz Surfer and choke him out showing Superior strength and speed. Overall a very good speed feat.

Countering TP

One thing I'm sure you will argue is that you will TP my team with Savior Cable, unfortunately that is not the case. Firstly Surfer and Adam have shown strong resistance to TP before.

• Scan 1-2: The Silver Surfer breaks free of the Goddess's mind control and gets blasted by Mind Gem Moon Dragon who is under the control of the goddess, but quickly recovers. For reference in the same series Mind Gem Moon Dragon put Professor X, a planetary+ telepath into a coma with one blast(Infinity Crusade #3)


• Scan 3-4: While in a coma, Warlock easily kicks Moondragon, a planetary telepath, out of his mind(Infinity Abyss #2)

Both of these characters should be fully capable of resisting Cable's TP. You may think that Vulcan is open to TP, but he's actually the member of my team with the best counter to TP. That being Synapse freezing. You may think this is some out of character bullshit, but when faced by a telepath in X-Men: Deadly Genesis #1, Rachel Grey, he shut down her mind and kept her TP off with Synapse freezing.

Strategy

Basically my team's strategy is pretty straight forward. Any characters with a bunch of energy get drained by Vulcan and then Surfer, Warlock, and a now amped Vulcan go to town on your team, shutting down any telepaths and abusing speed/powerful energy attacks to put them down. If anyone gets hurt, Warlock can just heal them up.

@shirso: @juiceboks: @lanternbatman: It's up

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Hrmmm. Tag.

Kev's team is really scary.

@juiceboks: bump

@emperorthanos-@kevd4wg I'll get my opener up later today