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Why the "Batwoman" TV show is a bad idea















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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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@solar_nerd said:


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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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Why Batwoman tho?



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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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i disagree with everything OP said here












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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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Why the "Batwoman" TV show is a bad idea















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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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Why Batwoman tho?



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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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i disagree with everything OP said here












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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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#1
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ANTHP2000
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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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#7
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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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#11
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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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King-Ragnar
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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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Magian
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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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Why Batwoman tho?



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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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i disagree with everything OP said here












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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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#19
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Why Batwoman tho?



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#20
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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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#24
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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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i disagree with everything OP said here












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#26
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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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#27
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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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#7
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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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#13
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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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Why Batwoman tho?



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#20
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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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#24
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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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#25
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i disagree with everything OP said here












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#26
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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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#27
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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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#1
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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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#4
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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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#5
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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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#6
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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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#7
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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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#8
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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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Why Batwoman tho?



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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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i disagree with everything OP said here












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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.











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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?












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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.












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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.












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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.












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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.












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@solar_nerd said:


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"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.















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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.












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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.












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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.












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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....












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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.












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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.












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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.












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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.












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Why Batwoman tho?



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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?












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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.












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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie












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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics












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i disagree with everything OP said here












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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't












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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.










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No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.








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No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.










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No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.









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No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.


Not enough Source Material



Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.


Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.


Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.









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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.



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- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.





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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?








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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?








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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?







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@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?









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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.



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@theparadox:


I don't trust the Arrowverse writers with anything, but just saying.





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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.








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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.








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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.







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@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.




Forgot to add that last one.





@anthp2000 said:


- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.






@anthp2000 said:



- you're right, but that gives the writers an opportunity to advance the character themselves the way they want to.


- the Arrowverse is dark enough. For instance it's darker than the DCEU, and they pulled off a solid Batman.


- because rising of feminism agenda.










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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.








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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.








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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.







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@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?



No.





@theparadox said:

@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?





@theparadox said:


@anthp2000: But do you trust the CW writers in making Batwoman?









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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.








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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.








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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.







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Could be good or bad, the origin for Batwoman needs some reworking imo, this may lead to a better setup for the character.









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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.








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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.








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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.







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I think them not wanting to make Batman is to not overexpose him, and DC taking some restrain even though he is everywhere else. Robin is getting his own show in the Titans, Batgirl might get her own movie, so all that is left that are not just other Robins is Batwoman. So it makes sense she getting her own show, and there lots of creative freedom they can have with her because she is relevantly new.









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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.











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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.











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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.










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@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.








@solar_nerd said:


No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.






@solar_nerd said:



No Caption Provided

"Batwoman" is set to premiere on The CW next year.


The character will be played by popular actress Ruby Rose, and debut in next Arrowverse crossover, which will also introduce Gotham City. Here's why the show is a bad idea.



Good to know.



Not enough Source Material


Look, Supergirl had tons of material to work with. However, Batwoman doesn't. She's barely ever had her own series, and truly isn't that important in the DC Comics Universe.



This gives more room for originality.



Too violent and mature for the Arrowverse


In the comics, Batwoman is even more violent than Batman. She also has plenty of mature themes running throughout her story, and The CW can't do R-Rated characters very well.



Tell that to Arrow season's 1 and 2 lol.



Why not just introduce Batman already?


Seriously, I'd rather they just bring in Batman without giving him his own show. Just have him be the focus of a crossover and maybe appear again.



Because they don't have the rights.


I in no way love the Arrowverse but these arguments are paper thin to say the least.










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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.








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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.








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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.







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I'm just wondering how they would implement Teen drama, unless by backstory, considering most CW shows did that in some way which has been controversial at times. I'd want to see what they do, but I hope they don't run into the problems I think Arrow had like getting rid of the Suicide Squad probably because of the movie with their name coming out and such.









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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.








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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.








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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.







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Ehhhhh, I disagree with all of your points.









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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.








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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.








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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.







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Not enough source material? No problem they'll just steal stories,villains and characters from Batman especially with Gotham ending.


Too violent? And more brutal? Not really.


No please, dont bring Batman to this awful universe.









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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....








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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....








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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....







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Of all the Bat-Family characters they chose Batwoman, I wonder why.....









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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol



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Yeah because all the other shows that had a lot of source material to draw from were that much faithful and respectful to it, right? Not to mention that BW has been pretty much the lead of a book since '10 or so, has her own supportive cast and villains (some anyway). They will find some stories to create for her.


Plus, as others said, they can always rip off stuff from Batman. If Arrow can do it, I don't see why an actual Bat-character can't lol





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#14
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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.








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#14
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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.








#14
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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.







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- Not enough source material is not a good reason.









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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.








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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.








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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.







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Arrow barely follows the source material either, that doesn't matter.


And this is a CW show, there shouldn't be high expectations anyway.









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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.








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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.








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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.







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As much as I am not a fan and I am not supporting CW to bring Batwoman to their universe, I am interested to see how things will go.









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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.



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Lack of source material isn't any hindrance... like look at Arrow, it spends most of it's time ripping off Batman rather than stick to Green Arrow lore.





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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.








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#18
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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.








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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.







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not enough source material is actually good to craft your own material without hindrance.









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Why Batwoman tho?



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Why Batwoman tho?



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Why Batwoman tho?



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Why Batwoman tho?





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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?








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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?








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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?







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@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?



Batfam member who has little to no chance of showing up in movies. PC reasons (which I hope doesn't detract from her actual character...I like her tbh) and some other minor reasons that I can't clearly articulate.


Side Note: Do you think they'll just brush the fact that she's Jewish under the rug and that it won't have any impact on her CW incarnation?




@lan_fan said:

Why Batwoman tho?




Why Batwoman tho?









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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).



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@arc_conductor: You made a good point, but I don't think she's relevant enough to get a solo series.


I think they'll indicate that she's a jew here and there, like they did to Zari (different religion tho).





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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.








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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.








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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.







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I liked Ruby in John wick 2, but no for real, I'm tired of seeing anything about batman or bat-related in any kind of media. She's not even as interesting as Damian Wayne is, let alone nightwing and redhood who have much more potential than her.









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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie








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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie








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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie







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I’ll watch if she’s a better fighter than Ollie









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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics








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#24
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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics








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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics







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Arrowverse can't do violent very well? We just forgetting season 1 of Arrow?


Lack of Source material means less restriction on the adaptation. I'd see that as an advantage. Batwoman is very obscure as a character and this will probably prompt more popularity in her comics









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#25
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i disagree with everything OP said here








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#25
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i disagree with everything OP said here








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i disagree with everything OP said here







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i disagree with everything OP said here









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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't








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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't








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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't







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She's the scapegoat, she makes the sacrafice to enter this horrid CWverse so the rest of the family doesn't









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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.








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buttersdaman000
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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.








#27
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buttersdaman000
(21963 posts)
- 13 days, 21 hours ago
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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.







#27
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buttersdaman000
(21963 posts)
- 13 days, 21 hours ago
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Not enough source material? Super Girl has enough source material? No, Super Girl rips off from Superman. Batwoman can and will do the same with Batmans material just like Arrow has done.



The Batwoman TV show is a bad idea simply by virtue of it being set in the Arrow-verse.









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