What is the life expectancy of a Magic Mouse 2 battery?









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I would like to know what is the battery life cycle of a Magic Mouse 2. Or the approximate number of charge/recharge cycles before its battery's performances will start to reduce visibly?










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    I would like to know what is the battery life cycle of a Magic Mouse 2. Or the approximate number of charge/recharge cycles before its battery's performances will start to reduce visibly?










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      I would like to know what is the battery life cycle of a Magic Mouse 2. Or the approximate number of charge/recharge cycles before its battery's performances will start to reduce visibly?










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      I would like to know what is the battery life cycle of a Magic Mouse 2. Or the approximate number of charge/recharge cycles before its battery's performances will start to reduce visibly?







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          The Magic Mouse 2 uses a lithium ion battery and generally speaking those have a useful life of 3 to 5 years1.



          That said, it's important to note that:



          • Apple products (including accessories) have a 1 year warranty

          • Only accessories included with a Mac computer are covered under AppleCare. In other words, if you buy AppleCare for your iMac that includes the Magic Mouse, it's covered. It won't cover it if you bought the mouse separately (like with a MacBook)

          From personal experience, I've had rechargeable batteries in a Logitech Mouse last the better part of a decade and brand new batteries (genuine OEM) from Dell and Apple fail after a year. YMMV. (your mileage may vary)





          1Manufacturers' information typically specify lifespan in terms of the number of cycles (e.g., capacity dropping linearly to 80% over 500 cycles), with no mention of chronological age.[162] On average, lifetimes consist of 1000 cycles,[163] although battery performance is rarely specified for more than 500 cycles. This means that batteries of mobile phones, or other hand-held devices in daily use, are not expected to last longer than three years. Some batteries based on carbon anodes offer more than 10,000 cycles.[164]







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            Lithium ion battery life is specified by manufacturers in number of CYCLES, that translates in 3-5 Years.



            The 3 to 5 Yr a very large gap. WHY?



            The reason for it is because the life span depends on USAGE.



            Degradation




            Over their lifespan, batteries degrade progressively with reduced
            capacity, cycle life, and safety due to chemical changes to the
            electrodes. Capacity loss/fade is expressed as a percentage of initial
            capacity after a number of cycles (e.g., 30% loss after 1,000 cycles).
            Fade can be separated into calendar loss and cycling loss. Calendar
            loss results from the passage of time and is measured from the maximum
            state of charge. Cycling loss is due to usage and depends on both the
            maximum state of charge and the depth of discharge.[95] Increased rate
            of self-discharge can be an indicator of internal short-circuit.[165]



            Degradation is strongly temperature-dependent, with a minimal
            degradation around 25°C, i.e., increasing if stored or used at above
            or below 25 °C.[166] High charge levels and elevated temperatures
            (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss.[167]
            Carbon anodes generate heat when in use. Batteries may be refrigerated
            to reduce temperature effects.







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            • "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
              – Alexander
              Nov 9 at 21:25










            • @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
              – Buscar웃
              Nov 9 at 22:27










            • Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
              – Alexander
              Nov 10 at 0:02










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            The Magic Mouse 2 uses a lithium ion battery and generally speaking those have a useful life of 3 to 5 years1.



            That said, it's important to note that:



            • Apple products (including accessories) have a 1 year warranty

            • Only accessories included with a Mac computer are covered under AppleCare. In other words, if you buy AppleCare for your iMac that includes the Magic Mouse, it's covered. It won't cover it if you bought the mouse separately (like with a MacBook)

            From personal experience, I've had rechargeable batteries in a Logitech Mouse last the better part of a decade and brand new batteries (genuine OEM) from Dell and Apple fail after a year. YMMV. (your mileage may vary)





            1Manufacturers' information typically specify lifespan in terms of the number of cycles (e.g., capacity dropping linearly to 80% over 500 cycles), with no mention of chronological age.[162] On average, lifetimes consist of 1000 cycles,[163] although battery performance is rarely specified for more than 500 cycles. This means that batteries of mobile phones, or other hand-held devices in daily use, are not expected to last longer than three years. Some batteries based on carbon anodes offer more than 10,000 cycles.[164]







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              up vote
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              The Magic Mouse 2 uses a lithium ion battery and generally speaking those have a useful life of 3 to 5 years1.



              That said, it's important to note that:



              • Apple products (including accessories) have a 1 year warranty

              • Only accessories included with a Mac computer are covered under AppleCare. In other words, if you buy AppleCare for your iMac that includes the Magic Mouse, it's covered. It won't cover it if you bought the mouse separately (like with a MacBook)

              From personal experience, I've had rechargeable batteries in a Logitech Mouse last the better part of a decade and brand new batteries (genuine OEM) from Dell and Apple fail after a year. YMMV. (your mileage may vary)





              1Manufacturers' information typically specify lifespan in terms of the number of cycles (e.g., capacity dropping linearly to 80% over 500 cycles), with no mention of chronological age.[162] On average, lifetimes consist of 1000 cycles,[163] although battery performance is rarely specified for more than 500 cycles. This means that batteries of mobile phones, or other hand-held devices in daily use, are not expected to last longer than three years. Some batteries based on carbon anodes offer more than 10,000 cycles.[164]







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                The Magic Mouse 2 uses a lithium ion battery and generally speaking those have a useful life of 3 to 5 years1.



                That said, it's important to note that:



                • Apple products (including accessories) have a 1 year warranty

                • Only accessories included with a Mac computer are covered under AppleCare. In other words, if you buy AppleCare for your iMac that includes the Magic Mouse, it's covered. It won't cover it if you bought the mouse separately (like with a MacBook)

                From personal experience, I've had rechargeable batteries in a Logitech Mouse last the better part of a decade and brand new batteries (genuine OEM) from Dell and Apple fail after a year. YMMV. (your mileage may vary)





                1Manufacturers' information typically specify lifespan in terms of the number of cycles (e.g., capacity dropping linearly to 80% over 500 cycles), with no mention of chronological age.[162] On average, lifetimes consist of 1000 cycles,[163] although battery performance is rarely specified for more than 500 cycles. This means that batteries of mobile phones, or other hand-held devices in daily use, are not expected to last longer than three years. Some batteries based on carbon anodes offer more than 10,000 cycles.[164]







                share|improve this answer














                The Magic Mouse 2 uses a lithium ion battery and generally speaking those have a useful life of 3 to 5 years1.



                That said, it's important to note that:



                • Apple products (including accessories) have a 1 year warranty

                • Only accessories included with a Mac computer are covered under AppleCare. In other words, if you buy AppleCare for your iMac that includes the Magic Mouse, it's covered. It won't cover it if you bought the mouse separately (like with a MacBook)

                From personal experience, I've had rechargeable batteries in a Logitech Mouse last the better part of a decade and brand new batteries (genuine OEM) from Dell and Apple fail after a year. YMMV. (your mileage may vary)





                1Manufacturers' information typically specify lifespan in terms of the number of cycles (e.g., capacity dropping linearly to 80% over 500 cycles), with no mention of chronological age.[162] On average, lifetimes consist of 1000 cycles,[163] although battery performance is rarely specified for more than 500 cycles. This means that batteries of mobile phones, or other hand-held devices in daily use, are not expected to last longer than three years. Some batteries based on carbon anodes offer more than 10,000 cycles.[164]








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                    Lithium ion battery life is specified by manufacturers in number of CYCLES, that translates in 3-5 Years.



                    The 3 to 5 Yr a very large gap. WHY?



                    The reason for it is because the life span depends on USAGE.



                    Degradation




                    Over their lifespan, batteries degrade progressively with reduced
                    capacity, cycle life, and safety due to chemical changes to the
                    electrodes. Capacity loss/fade is expressed as a percentage of initial
                    capacity after a number of cycles (e.g., 30% loss after 1,000 cycles).
                    Fade can be separated into calendar loss and cycling loss. Calendar
                    loss results from the passage of time and is measured from the maximum
                    state of charge. Cycling loss is due to usage and depends on both the
                    maximum state of charge and the depth of discharge.[95] Increased rate
                    of self-discharge can be an indicator of internal short-circuit.[165]



                    Degradation is strongly temperature-dependent, with a minimal
                    degradation around 25°C, i.e., increasing if stored or used at above
                    or below 25 °C.[166] High charge levels and elevated temperatures
                    (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss.[167]
                    Carbon anodes generate heat when in use. Batteries may be refrigerated
                    to reduce temperature effects.







                    share|improve this answer






















                    • "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 9 at 21:25










                    • @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
                      – Buscar웃
                      Nov 9 at 22:27










                    • Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 10 at 0:02














                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote













                    Lithium ion battery life is specified by manufacturers in number of CYCLES, that translates in 3-5 Years.



                    The 3 to 5 Yr a very large gap. WHY?



                    The reason for it is because the life span depends on USAGE.



                    Degradation




                    Over their lifespan, batteries degrade progressively with reduced
                    capacity, cycle life, and safety due to chemical changes to the
                    electrodes. Capacity loss/fade is expressed as a percentage of initial
                    capacity after a number of cycles (e.g., 30% loss after 1,000 cycles).
                    Fade can be separated into calendar loss and cycling loss. Calendar
                    loss results from the passage of time and is measured from the maximum
                    state of charge. Cycling loss is due to usage and depends on both the
                    maximum state of charge and the depth of discharge.[95] Increased rate
                    of self-discharge can be an indicator of internal short-circuit.[165]



                    Degradation is strongly temperature-dependent, with a minimal
                    degradation around 25°C, i.e., increasing if stored or used at above
                    or below 25 °C.[166] High charge levels and elevated temperatures
                    (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss.[167]
                    Carbon anodes generate heat when in use. Batteries may be refrigerated
                    to reduce temperature effects.







                    share|improve this answer






















                    • "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 9 at 21:25










                    • @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
                      – Buscar웃
                      Nov 9 at 22:27










                    • Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 10 at 0:02












                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote









                    Lithium ion battery life is specified by manufacturers in number of CYCLES, that translates in 3-5 Years.



                    The 3 to 5 Yr a very large gap. WHY?



                    The reason for it is because the life span depends on USAGE.



                    Degradation




                    Over their lifespan, batteries degrade progressively with reduced
                    capacity, cycle life, and safety due to chemical changes to the
                    electrodes. Capacity loss/fade is expressed as a percentage of initial
                    capacity after a number of cycles (e.g., 30% loss after 1,000 cycles).
                    Fade can be separated into calendar loss and cycling loss. Calendar
                    loss results from the passage of time and is measured from the maximum
                    state of charge. Cycling loss is due to usage and depends on both the
                    maximum state of charge and the depth of discharge.[95] Increased rate
                    of self-discharge can be an indicator of internal short-circuit.[165]



                    Degradation is strongly temperature-dependent, with a minimal
                    degradation around 25°C, i.e., increasing if stored or used at above
                    or below 25 °C.[166] High charge levels and elevated temperatures
                    (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss.[167]
                    Carbon anodes generate heat when in use. Batteries may be refrigerated
                    to reduce temperature effects.







                    share|improve this answer














                    Lithium ion battery life is specified by manufacturers in number of CYCLES, that translates in 3-5 Years.



                    The 3 to 5 Yr a very large gap. WHY?



                    The reason for it is because the life span depends on USAGE.



                    Degradation




                    Over their lifespan, batteries degrade progressively with reduced
                    capacity, cycle life, and safety due to chemical changes to the
                    electrodes. Capacity loss/fade is expressed as a percentage of initial
                    capacity after a number of cycles (e.g., 30% loss after 1,000 cycles).
                    Fade can be separated into calendar loss and cycling loss. Calendar
                    loss results from the passage of time and is measured from the maximum
                    state of charge. Cycling loss is due to usage and depends on both the
                    maximum state of charge and the depth of discharge.[95] Increased rate
                    of self-discharge can be an indicator of internal short-circuit.[165]



                    Degradation is strongly temperature-dependent, with a minimal
                    degradation around 25°C, i.e., increasing if stored or used at above
                    or below 25 °C.[166] High charge levels and elevated temperatures
                    (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss.[167]
                    Carbon anodes generate heat when in use. Batteries may be refrigerated
                    to reduce temperature effects.








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                    answered Nov 9 at 16:34









                    Buscar웃

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                    • "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 9 at 21:25










                    • @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
                      – Buscar웃
                      Nov 9 at 22:27










                    • Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 10 at 0:02
















                    • "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 9 at 21:25










                    • @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
                      – Buscar웃
                      Nov 9 at 22:27










                    • Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
                      – Alexander
                      Nov 10 at 0:02















                    "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
                    – Alexander
                    Nov 9 at 21:25




                    "3-5 years" ... "a very large span" Uhhhh, are you sure? Most high quality have lifespans in the decades.
                    – Alexander
                    Nov 9 at 21:25












                    @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
                    – Buscar웃
                    Nov 9 at 22:27




                    @Alexander 3 to 5 years is a large gap.
                    – Buscar웃
                    Nov 9 at 22:27












                    Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
                    – Alexander
                    Nov 10 at 0:02




                    Oh I see, when you wrote span I thought you mean lifespan. I thought you were drinking the koolaid thinking 5 years is very long for a mouse's lifespan
                    – Alexander
                    Nov 10 at 0:02

















                     

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