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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
Mega Rayquaza 57%
Mega Mewtwo Y 43%
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Going to back rayquaza.
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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@SirFizzWhizz: come on reply please
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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@SirFizzWhizz: come on reply please
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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Going to back rayquaza.
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
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252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
Mega Rayquaza 57%
Mega Mewtwo Y 43%
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Going to back rayquaza.
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
That said mew Two wins. Faster, and better pool of powers.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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@SirFizzWhizz: come on reply please
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
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Going to back rayquaza.
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
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Poll: Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Rayquaza (14 votes)
Mega Rayquaza 57%
Mega Mewtwo Y 43%
Mega Rayquaza 57%
Mega Mewtwo Y 43%
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@lpnq: and why??
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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@dbztail: Well he busted a life wiping meteor, stomped primal groudon and kyogre regular rayquaza is planetary.
IMO mewtwo can win i just dont see it happening.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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only way mewtwo can win is via tp.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
That said mew Two wins. Faster, and better pool of powers.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
That said mew Two wins. Faster, and better pool of powers.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
That said mew Two wins. Faster, and better pool of powers.
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The life wiping meteor been debunk so many times. No more realistic than Mew Two at base threatening all life on earth in the movie.
That said mew Two wins. Faster, and better pool of powers.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
All you proven then is Genesect > Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Also I never said Mew Two can threaten the earth. Just as I dont believe destroying a "life wiping meteor" is proof of planet level like some wankers.
Also Mewtwo with his various abilities, like every known move in the game versatility, would beat the primal pokemon mention anyway. Likely TP them flat out like he did to everything in the first movie.
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: Do you think Mewtwo at base threatening all life on earth great. Even Dialga,Palkia,Giratina can do that. While mewtwo had a hard time with genesect rayquaza owned primal kyogre and primal groudon with an extremespeed reverting them back to their normal state
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
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@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
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@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
Considering Mew and mewtwo feats, what they accomplish, and how they are ranked and stated "Most Powerful pokemon in the World" in sources, then Genesect giving him a hard time is a good feat for Genesect.
Its not that hard to understand.
Even if we want to go strictly canon game material and game mechanics, Mewtwo is the best.
It has the same overall stats at Rayquaza. But what is different between the two? The fact Mewtwo in game has the highest possible stats in attack and special attack available.
If we go by Pokemon Entries....
In various gens it is said to have its battle abilities raise to the ultimate level as a accolade compared to the rest. Also in both game mechanics and game lore Mewtwo, the clone of Mew, is capable of learning any move where Rayquaza is limited in move sets.
Its funny to note that even after Arceus was introduce, the official pokedex still states Mew as the ancestor of all Pokemon, including Rayquaza.
So while it may be a good fight, mewtwo is just by accolades and on paper mechanics of the game better.
@lpnq said:
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
@sirfizzwhizz: How did he prove genesect >Primal kyogre and groudon?
He said mewtwo had a hard time with genesect than proceeded to say that rayquaza stomped PK and PG.
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
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@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
As a clone in the lore it should know all moves. It was the dead copy in all ways to Mew in the movie. However by strictly game mechanics...
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/rayquaza/moves/3
http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/mewtwo
Mewtwo has Rayquaza beat horribly in move sets options.
Also I still seen no feats from Rayquaza vs TP mind control like Mewtwo did on many other pokemon.
@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
@dbztail said:
@sirfizzwhizz: Its mew that can learn all move not mewtwo. Why cant it just return if u tp it. And if your taking game feats rayquaza can equip choice scarf so it still beats mewtwo. There is a reason M.rayquaza got banned from the ubers tier you know
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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ur showing pokedex entries of mew not mewtwo for the silver, crystal, D/P and HG/SS and X/Y.
as for the game
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo X: 650-767 (184.1 - 217.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 175-207 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 296-350 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 434-512 (122.9 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ray survives anything they can throw at him and OHKOs back
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Plus the pokedex entries were made before mega rayquaza came out look at the ORAS pokedex
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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Mewtwo's Rayquaza
Pokéathlon stats are better for rayquaza
Belive me even i want mega mewtwo y to be stronger cause im a fan boy but the info says no.
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@SirFizzWhizz: come on reply please
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@SirFizzWhizz: come on reply please
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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I pick Rayquaza because it doesn't need to hold an item in the game and in the anime to mega evolve. All he needs are consumption of meteorites and learn Dragon Ascent. I like Mewtwo Y but I like the Chinese dragon look from Rayquaza, I just like the designs and his moves more than the battle. So this is my opinion.
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