Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.

Can Cap and Buck clear the area?

Same amount of soldiers.

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em

It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...

No they werent (?)

Unless I am missing something.

Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.

I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.

That guy is getting fired.

Their bodies get filled with lead.

No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.

The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.

@payneintheass:

You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.

OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.

@the_magister:

You're too late.

The super soldiers win.

bump

Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.

They get shot.

No chance

Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?

Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.

They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.

@tonymartial:

Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?

Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...

Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?

@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...

Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.

I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.

It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.

They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...

MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.

They die.

KSK in a stomp.