Skip to main content

The predator runs the Grimm gauntlet




























The predator runs the Grimm gauntlet















Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read


















































































Wiki



  • Characters

  • Creators

  • Teams

  • Volumes

  • Issues

  • Publishers

  • Locations

  • Concepts

  • Things

  • Story Arcs

  • Movies

  • Series

  • Episodes




  • Characters

  • Creators

  • Teams

  • Volumes

  • Issues

  • Publishers

  • Locations

  • Concepts

  • Things

  • Story Arcs

  • Movies

  • Series

  • Episodes



New Comics



Forums



  • Gen. Discussion

  • Bug Reporting

  • Delete/Combine Pages

  • Artist Show-Off

  • Off-Topic

  • Contests

  • Battles

  • Fan-Fic

  • RPG

  • Comic Book Preview

  • API Developers

  • Editing & Tools

  • Podcast

  • Quests




  • Gen. Discussion

  • Bug Reporting

  • Delete/Combine Pages

  • Artist Show-Off

  • Off-Topic

  • Contests

  • Battles

  • Fan-Fic

  • RPG

  • Comic Book Preview

  • API Developers

  • Editing & Tools

  • Podcast

  • Quests




Community


  • Top Users

  • Activity Feed

  • User Lists

  • Community Promos



  • Top Users

  • Activity Feed

  • User Lists

  • Community Promos




Archives


  • News

  • Reviews

  • Videos

  • Podcasts

  • Previews



  • News

  • Reviews

  • Videos

  • Podcasts

  • Previews
























The predator runs the Grimm gauntlet















Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read







































The predator runs the Grimm gauntlet















Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read




































Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read




























Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read


























Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read























Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee












Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:












Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.












Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4












Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump












Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates












Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?












Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.












Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.












Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.












Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read












Avatar image for sladerulez



#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee








Avatar image for sladerulez






#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee








#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee







#1
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio




A yuatja hunter has come to the world of Remnant, hearing of their powerful beasts known as Grimm. He wishes to prove his strength and test his mettle against the beasts.


The predator has all recorded data for each Grimm he faces and will have 2 days to prepare


Comic feats allowed


Composite Predator


1. Ten beowolves


2. Five Ursa


3. Ursa Major


4. Beringel


5. Nuckelavee









Avatar image for sladerulez



#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:








Avatar image for sladerulez






#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:








#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio


@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:







#2
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 23 days ago
- Show Bio




@SirFizzWhizz:


@chronicplane:


@red_ruby_petal:


@ceratisa:









Avatar image for sladerulez



#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump








Avatar image for sladerulez






#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump








#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump







#3
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio




Bump









Avatar image for apocofist



#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.








Avatar image for apocofist






#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.








#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.







#4
Posted by

Apocofist
(2845 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio




The disappointment on his face when he realizes that you can't salvage anything from them.


So much for setting up that brand new trophy room.













Avatar image for sladerulez



#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.








Avatar image for sladerulez






#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.








#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.







#5
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio




@apocofist: he won't be mad about it, just disappointed.









Avatar image for vooon



#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4








Avatar image for vooon






#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4








#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


Stops at 4







#6
Posted by

vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio




Stops at 4









Avatar image for sladerulez



#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?








Avatar image for sladerulez






#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?








#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: reasons?







#7
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 22 days ago
- Show Bio




@vooon: reasons?









Avatar image for sladerulez



#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump








Avatar image for sladerulez






#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump








#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


Bump







#8
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




Bump









Avatar image for vooon



#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.








Avatar image for vooon






#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.








#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.







#9
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




@sladerulez: It's not an easy gauntlet for the Predator. Yes, he is more skilled than any of them but his raw stats are way too low to keep up with the last rounds. He's having the prep and that will give him a big advantage over the first 3 rounds, basically clearing them instantly with his Power Glove and Shoulder Cannon but I don't see him getting past the Beringel, let alone the Nuckelavee. With the durability they both have shown, they are capable of tanking the Cannon's blasts (Predator's most powerful offensive available) without losing the fight straight away and blitz him back thanks to the considerable gap of speed. Both the them are NOT dependent on their equipments and while the Power Glove will sure come in handy for the Predator in the first rounds, it'll become pratically useless in the last two battles. Predator's only chance would be his self-destruct but that's not really an option as he will die too and the Beringel and the Nuckelavee are in separated rounds anyway.









Avatar image for sladerulez



#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates








Avatar image for sladerulez






#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates








#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates







#10
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




@vooon: the speed gap isn't that big, you know. Considering that he dances around bullets and I do believe the writer of the comics said that they were capable of moving faster than the human eye can see. That alone puts him above most RWBY characters.


But the rest of your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would assume the cannon blast should cause major damage, considering it was used by a random blooded Yautja to kill a T-rex in one shot. And we haven't seen the Beringel tank any energy based attacks. And we all know that blunt, piercing, and energy based attacks causes different effects on different characters. Like how Naruto is tough against energy and piercing, but has trouble with blunt attacks like Night Guy and the eight Gates









Avatar image for vooon



#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?








Avatar image for vooon






#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?








#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?







#11
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




@sladerulez: Yes, I'm not saying he is slow by any means, he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times but I'm positive they are faster than that, the Nuckelavee for example tagged the entire Team RNJR without much trouble, Ruby is massively faster than anything the Predator has fought and when using her Semblance she's capable of moving at speeds that are nearly too fast for the eye to catch, making it appear as if she can teleport. That's at least Hypersonic and everyone on the Team RNJR was at this level. Also, Nora's Semblance attacks are massively strong and they both never showed much damage while taking repeated blows from the entire team. Aren't some Lei Ren's attacks energy driven?









Avatar image for sladerulez



#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.








Avatar image for sladerulez






#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.








#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.







#12
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




@vooon: few things wrong with that. He was dodging bullets from a Gatling gun. Gatling guns shoot at the calculated speed of 2490 fps. That's two times faster than the speed of sound. Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.


And, I'd just like to point out, Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds and can only move that fast when her semblance is active. When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.


And finally, none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon, which can tear through the hull of a tank and one shot a T-rex.









Avatar image for vooon



#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.








Avatar image for vooon






#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.








#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.







#13
Edited by
vooon
(354 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




@sladerulez said:


@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.


That's a reaction speed feat, I was talking about combat speed and I already said



@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times



Yes, his reaction speed is probably Supersonic, but not his combat speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.



I disagree. I'd say Ruby, for example, is a lot faster than bullet time as she managed to escape from Mercury, while using her Semblance; even without it, she's likely Hypersonic judging by how she caught Neo off guard. And as I said most of the people on Team RNJR can compare to her base speed.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.




No. Yes, of course. Yeah, they didn't tag her but they were pretty close and you gotta consider they were fighting 3 more people with similiar speed at the same time.



@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon



I'm fairly positive Nora's Hammer could, judging by how she completely obliterated the Petra Gigas' body with a single blow. Yeah, the cannon uses energy blasts but it's not like the Predator is immune to pure blunt force anyway.



@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.



@vooon: Dodging 2000-6000 bullets per minute traveling at Mach 2 does not put him at subsonic.




@vooon said:

@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times




@sladerulez: he's probably Subsonic as he was able to outrun cars and with even greater reaction times




@sladerulez said:

@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.




@vooon: That puts him around the speeds of RWBY characters, who are bullet timers.




@sladerulez said:

@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.






@vooon: Ruby only has Hypersonic traveling speeds


and can only move that fast when her semblance is active.


When she was going at full speed, the Nuckelavee couldn't tag her, neither could the Beringel. No Grimm has ever tagged her at full speed.





@sladerulez said:

@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon




@vooon: none of the attacks used by team RNGR can compare to the power of his shoulder cannon









Avatar image for sladerulez



#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.








Avatar image for sladerulez






#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.








#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio


@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.







#14
Posted by

sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 21 days ago
- Show Bio




@vooon: OK, makes sense. But what do you think of the author's note about Predators moving faster than the human eye can see when going full speed? Considering nothing in the franchise ever forced it to go full speed.


And the predators never really worry about blunt, piercing, or energy based attacks, mainly because of their armor, which is stronger than any material found on Earth. Their armor can withstand bullets, tanks, and missiles. Only piercing attacks at the joints can penetrate.


Not to mention that an elite predator can hold a Queen Xenomorph in place with a chain.


Have you noticed that predators are never killed when their armor is on? Because no one can break it. You would need Yang or Nora's level of strength to break it, and the second they slammed the horse's head with the hammer, it was dead and all that was left was the rider.









Avatar image for sladerulez



#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.








Avatar image for sladerulez






#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.








#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio


Bump.







#15
Edited by
sladerulez
(9570 posts)
- 11 months, 1 day ago
- Show Bio




Bump.









Avatar image for rac95



#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.








Avatar image for rac95






#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.








#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio


Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.







#16
Posted by

Rac95
(2728 posts)
- 11 days, 17 hours ago
- Show Bio




Since it's a bit different from a new thread, I also will throw my opinion in this discussion.


First of all his equipment is strong enough to kill atleast the earlier versions in the gauntlet easily (talking about the shoulder cannon especially), the numbers may be an advantage, but the weaker ones would only fare partly better than a Xenomorph group against his cannon.


This leads to the second problem for the Grimm. A fully prepared Predator is a bigger threat than a normal one. They may not create weapons or gadgets like Batman, but have multiple events and statements about laying traps for their enemies or use ambush tactics.


With full knowledge a Predator would know that Grimm mostly prefer a direct approach, even in single numbers and could easoly prepare for that.


Xenomorphs on the other side also work with stealth (one of the reasons Yautja thermovision is useful) if they have to hunt 1v1 or in really small groups and they still get killed. This means Xenomorphs> most Grimm, which is also proven by the adaptility they have, for example actively changing hunting grounds.


Also humans>Grimm in terms of intelligence and humans gets ambushed very often, even when they expect attacks.


Third point is his cloaking, he could just cloak and run out of the way to attack from behind.


With some equipment restricted it would be a different story, but if composite also means composite equipment and not only composite feats he has a good, if not very good,chance of clearing.









Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read










Don't post to forums
Gen. Discussion
Bug Reporting
Delete/Combine Pages
Artist Show-Off
Off-Topic
Contests
Battles
Fan-Fic
RPG
Moderator Hangout
Comic Book Preview
API Developers
Editing & Tools
Podcast
Quests
Spam Museum(Or search for a more specific forum)



(Bring back the main forum list)













Forums



Main boards



  • Gen. Discussion


  • Bug Reporting


  • Delete/Combine Pages


  • Artist Show-Off


  • Off-Topic


  • Contests


  • Battles


  • Fan-Fic


  • RPG


  • Comic Book Preview


  • API Developers


  • Editing & Tools


  • Podcast


  • Quests

Popular wiki boards


  • X-Men

  • Dragon Ball Universe

  • Spider-Man

  • Wonder Woman

  • Superman

  • Batman

  • Storm

  • Hulk

  • Star Wars Universe

  • Thor





Top posters






  • SirFizzWhizz
    37985 posts





  • jashro44
    36727 posts





  • Sy8000
    34046 posts





  • dondave
    32066 posts





  • Leo-343
    27713 posts





  • AllStarSuperman
    26904 posts





  • MICKEY-MOUSE
    25444 posts





  • Arcus1
    24074 posts





  • MysticMedivh
    23449 posts





  • reaverlation
    23343 posts


































































Popular posts from this blog

How to how show current date and time by default on contact form 7 in WordPress without taking input from user in datetimepicker

Syphilis

Darth Vader #20