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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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Luke for sure.












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Luke is the strongest












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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.












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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.











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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).












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Luke should win.












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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.












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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.












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luke

















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Luke.












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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.












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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.












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Luke, every time, decent fight.












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Luke more times than not












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#19
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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)












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Luke 10/10












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@emperordmb said:

Luke 10/10














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Luke almost every time, if no every time.












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#23
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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.












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Luke












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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?












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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.












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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.












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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.










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#1
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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
No Caption Provided











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#2
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Luke for sure.












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#3
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Luke is the strongest












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#4
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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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#5
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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.












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#6
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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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#7
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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.











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#8
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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).












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#9
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Luke should win.












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#10
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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.












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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.












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#12
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luke

















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Luke.












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#15
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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.












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#16
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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.












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#17
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Luke, every time, decent fight.












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#18
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Luke more times than not












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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)












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Luke 10/10












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@emperordmb said:

Luke 10/10














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Luke almost every time, if no every time.












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#23
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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.












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Luke












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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?












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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.












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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.












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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.










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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
No Caption Provided











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#2
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Luke for sure.












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Luke is the strongest












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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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#5
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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.












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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.











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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).












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Luke should win.












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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.












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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.












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luke

















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Luke.












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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.












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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.












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Luke, every time, decent fight.












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Luke more times than not












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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)












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Luke 10/10












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@emperordmb said:

Luke 10/10














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Luke almost every time, if no every time.












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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.












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Luke












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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?












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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.












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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.












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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.










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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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Luke for sure.












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Luke is the strongest












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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.












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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.











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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).












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Luke should win.












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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.












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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.












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luke

















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Luke.












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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


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I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.












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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.












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Luke, every time, decent fight.












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Luke more times than not












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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)












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Luke 10/10












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@emperordmb said:

Luke 10/10














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Luke almost every time, if no every time.












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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.












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Luke












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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?












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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.












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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.












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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.










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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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Luke for sure.












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Luke is the strongest












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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.












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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.











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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).












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Luke should win.












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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.












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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.












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luke

















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Luke.












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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.












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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.












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Luke, every time, decent fight.












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Luke more times than not












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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)












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Luke 10/10












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@emperordmb said:

Luke 10/10














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Luke almost every time, if no every time.












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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.












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Luke












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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?












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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.












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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.












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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.










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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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Luke for sure.












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Luke is the strongest












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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.












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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.











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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).












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Luke should win.












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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.












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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.












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luke

















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Luke.












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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.












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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.












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Luke, every time, decent fight.












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Luke more times than not












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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)












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Luke 10/10












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Luke 10/10














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Luke almost every time, if no every time.












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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.












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Luke












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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?












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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.












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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.












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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
No Caption Provided






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This is Rebellion era Luke. 
 
Location ; The Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  
Both are in character. 
Standard winning conditions. 
No prep. 
Both have standard lightsabers. 
Who wins?  
 


  
  
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Luke for sure.








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Luke for sure.








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Luke for sure.







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Luke for sure.









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Luke is the strongest








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Luke is the strongest








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Luke is the strongest







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Luke is the strongest









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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.



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1. So pre-ESB Luke? "Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


2. That is New Republic Luke in that picture.





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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.








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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.








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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.







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@darkelf35 said:


Luke is the strongest


Not in the Rebellion era, no.


@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.









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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.



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@ShootingNova said:



@JediXMan said:


"Rebellion" includes the entire OT.


Then we go with the current-most one. RotJ Luke would kind of stomp, though.



I'd tend to agree. Though when I think "Rebellion," I think of between ANH and ESB. Or, at the latest, I think of Shadows of the Empire Luke. For some reason, I just don't see RotJ as Rebellion Luke, even though he is.





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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.







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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
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@ShootingNova@JediXMan:  
 
We can use the version of Luke that would give Ventress a good fight.








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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).








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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).








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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).







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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).









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Luke should win.








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Luke should win.








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Luke should win.







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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.








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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.








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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.







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Ventress is a very skilled, aggressive, and swift duelist. RotJ Luke is strong, but Yoda never prepared him for someone like Ventress. While I think within the next 5 to 10 years Luke could have won, I am not sure if this is a clear victory for Luke at his height in the Rebellion era. Ventress has lots of speed and experience on her side.









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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.








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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.








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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.







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Ventress has no speed feats that exceed Luke's. In fact, if anything, Luke's speed feats outstrip Ventress'. Luke has ran invisibly fast, deflected fire from a dozen shooters simultaneously, perceived ships flying at sublight speeds in slow motion, struck fast enough to produce afterimages of his blade, waved his lightsaber fast enough to form "tapestries" out of his blurring motions, timed his blows to within the span of a thought, viewed superhumanly fast characters in slow motion, etc. Ventress is only equal to him in speed at best. None of her speed showings outweigh his at all. 
 
For physical strength? Luke has performed hand stands on one thumb and carried Vader on his back while injured from the Emperor's Lightning. Ventress has never replicated those. 
 
Skill? Ventress has stalemated Obi-Wan and beaten Jeisel and K'Kruhk. Luke has beaten Lumiya, fought as an equal with Flint without being interested in fighting him, and fought as a perfect equal with Vader. Contrarily, Ventress usually loses to Anakin, who at his best was only a rival of RotJ Vader. Luke supersedes Asajj in skill. 
 
Power? Ventress might have evinced more raw telekinetic strength than Luke has (however, if I really wanted to, I could probably make the case that Luke's TK feats are tantamount to Ventress') but has not duplicated Luke's telekinetic range or precision. More than that, Luke knows a number of other powers Ventress has never demonstrated, some of which could be beneficial to him here, such as Dun Moch or his telepathic abilities (Ventress was once incapacitated telepathically by Fay). 
 
Luke would win a majority, though not easily. It should be a solid majority though, around 8/10.









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luke








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luke









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Luke.








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Luke.








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Luke.







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Luke.









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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.








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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.








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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.







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@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).



Wow, old thread but damn Nova. You think ESB Luke can beat Ventress? The Luke who failed to take two Magnagaurds? Or has your opinion change?


On Topic:


I personally feel ROTJ era Luke still loses in a ok fight. Anything post that I cannot comment.





@shootingnova said:

ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).





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ESB Luke still wins, ANH Luke loses (quite obviously).









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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.








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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.








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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.







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Rebellion Era Luke?


Well assuming this is Luke as of ROTJ, at the end of the rebellion Era...


Luke wins for a majority.


Though as always Ventress puts up a good fight/puts on a really good show before being sundered.









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Luke, every time, decent fight.








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Luke, every time, decent fight.








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Luke, every time, decent fight.







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Luke, every time, decent fight.









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Luke more times than not








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Luke more times than not








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Luke more times than not







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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)








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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)








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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)







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If RoTJ Luke counts as rebellion Luke than he should win, considering he had beat darth vader (yes he didi use the dark side to but still, beat datrth vader.)









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Luke 10/10








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Luke 10/10








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Luke 10/10







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Luke 10/10










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Luke 10/10










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Luke 10/10









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Luke 10/10







@emperordmb said:

Luke 10/10





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Luke 10/10









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Luke almost every time, if no every time.








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Luke almost every time, if no every time.








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Luke almost every time, if no every time.







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Luke almost every time, if no every time.









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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.








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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.








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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.







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TESB Luke gets stomped. ROTJ Luke wins solidly, although he lacks any real experience so she'll give him difficulty.









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Luke








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Luke








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Luke







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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?








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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?








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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?







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Is this luke Roth from legends? Or are we going current continuity luke?









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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.








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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.








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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.







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@felgrim: Given the thread time, it's Luke from the olden days before Disney erased everything.









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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.








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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.








#27
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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.







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Either way. Maybe Luke for a slim majority.









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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.








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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.








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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.







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@wolfrazer: lmao, true. Just been a while. Would give it to luke then.









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