Why do we need 2 variables for Semaphores in the Producer Consumer problem?
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The standard way Producer Consumer is implemented is like:
useQueue
mutexemptyCount
semaphore of sizeN
fullCount
semaphore of sizeN
produce:
down(emptyCount)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
up(fullCount)
consume:
down(fullCount)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
up(emptyCount)
Where if down
has a non-positive value, the thread waits.up
pushes the count up
Taken from this Wikipedia article
Why can't we have something like:
class NewSemaphore
int capacity, permits;
/**
* Initialize the semaphore with a max capacity
* @param n the max capacity
*/
NewSemaphore(int n)
capacity = n;
permits = 0;
/**
* We usually never check this. Check if it's within limits.
* If not, wait
*/
synchronized void up()
if (permits >= capacity)
wait();
else
permits++;
notify();
/**
* Standard down/acquire function
*/
synchronized void down()
if (permits <= 0)
wait();
else
permits--;
notify();
This will be called like:
produce:
up(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
consume:
down(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
Why do we need 2 different variables emptyCount
and fullCount
?
operating-system synchronization mutex semaphore producer-consumer
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The standard way Producer Consumer is implemented is like:
useQueue
mutexemptyCount
semaphore of sizeN
fullCount
semaphore of sizeN
produce:
down(emptyCount)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
up(fullCount)
consume:
down(fullCount)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
up(emptyCount)
Where if down
has a non-positive value, the thread waits.up
pushes the count up
Taken from this Wikipedia article
Why can't we have something like:
class NewSemaphore
int capacity, permits;
/**
* Initialize the semaphore with a max capacity
* @param n the max capacity
*/
NewSemaphore(int n)
capacity = n;
permits = 0;
/**
* We usually never check this. Check if it's within limits.
* If not, wait
*/
synchronized void up()
if (permits >= capacity)
wait();
else
permits++;
notify();
/**
* Standard down/acquire function
*/
synchronized void down()
if (permits <= 0)
wait();
else
permits--;
notify();
This will be called like:
produce:
up(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
consume:
down(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
Why do we need 2 different variables emptyCount
and fullCount
?
operating-system synchronization mutex semaphore producer-consumer
Wjat does 'synchronized' do, because you seem to be waiting inside it?
– Martin James
Nov 11 at 10:14
It's the monitor which Java provides. It's for making atomic statements on the semaphore object
– aneesh joshi
Nov 11 at 13:16
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The standard way Producer Consumer is implemented is like:
useQueue
mutexemptyCount
semaphore of sizeN
fullCount
semaphore of sizeN
produce:
down(emptyCount)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
up(fullCount)
consume:
down(fullCount)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
up(emptyCount)
Where if down
has a non-positive value, the thread waits.up
pushes the count up
Taken from this Wikipedia article
Why can't we have something like:
class NewSemaphore
int capacity, permits;
/**
* Initialize the semaphore with a max capacity
* @param n the max capacity
*/
NewSemaphore(int n)
capacity = n;
permits = 0;
/**
* We usually never check this. Check if it's within limits.
* If not, wait
*/
synchronized void up()
if (permits >= capacity)
wait();
else
permits++;
notify();
/**
* Standard down/acquire function
*/
synchronized void down()
if (permits <= 0)
wait();
else
permits--;
notify();
This will be called like:
produce:
up(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
consume:
down(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
Why do we need 2 different variables emptyCount
and fullCount
?
operating-system synchronization mutex semaphore producer-consumer
The standard way Producer Consumer is implemented is like:
useQueue
mutexemptyCount
semaphore of sizeN
fullCount
semaphore of sizeN
produce:
down(emptyCount)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
up(fullCount)
consume:
down(fullCount)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
up(emptyCount)
Where if down
has a non-positive value, the thread waits.up
pushes the count up
Taken from this Wikipedia article
Why can't we have something like:
class NewSemaphore
int capacity, permits;
/**
* Initialize the semaphore with a max capacity
* @param n the max capacity
*/
NewSemaphore(int n)
capacity = n;
permits = 0;
/**
* We usually never check this. Check if it's within limits.
* If not, wait
*/
synchronized void up()
if (permits >= capacity)
wait();
else
permits++;
notify();
/**
* Standard down/acquire function
*/
synchronized void down()
if (permits <= 0)
wait();
else
permits--;
notify();
This will be called like:
produce:
up(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
putItemIntoQueue(item)
up(useQueue)
consume:
down(mySemaphore)
down(useQueue)
item ← getItemFromQueue()
up(useQueue)
Why do we need 2 different variables emptyCount
and fullCount
?
operating-system synchronization mutex semaphore producer-consumer
operating-system synchronization mutex semaphore producer-consumer
edited Nov 11 at 2:13
asked Nov 11 at 2:05
aneesh joshi
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Wjat does 'synchronized' do, because you seem to be waiting inside it?
– Martin James
Nov 11 at 10:14
It's the monitor which Java provides. It's for making atomic statements on the semaphore object
– aneesh joshi
Nov 11 at 13:16
add a comment |
Wjat does 'synchronized' do, because you seem to be waiting inside it?
– Martin James
Nov 11 at 10:14
It's the monitor which Java provides. It's for making atomic statements on the semaphore object
– aneesh joshi
Nov 11 at 13:16
Wjat does 'synchronized' do, because you seem to be waiting inside it?
– Martin James
Nov 11 at 10:14
Wjat does 'synchronized' do, because you seem to be waiting inside it?
– Martin James
Nov 11 at 10:14
It's the monitor which Java provides. It's for making atomic statements on the semaphore object
– aneesh joshi
Nov 11 at 13:16
It's the monitor which Java provides. It's for making atomic statements on the semaphore object
– aneesh joshi
Nov 11 at 13:16
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There are two semaphores because there are two things we are keeping in check. First is that consumers wait if there is nothing to consume, and second that producers wait if the queue is full.
Your idea would let producers continue producing until they ran out of memory or some other resource.
There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
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There are two semaphores because there are two things we are keeping in check. First is that consumers wait if there is nothing to consume, and second that producers wait if the queue is full.
Your idea would let producers continue producing until they ran out of memory or some other resource.
There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
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There are two semaphores because there are two things we are keeping in check. First is that consumers wait if there is nothing to consume, and second that producers wait if the queue is full.
Your idea would let producers continue producing until they ran out of memory or some other resource.
There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
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There are two semaphores because there are two things we are keeping in check. First is that consumers wait if there is nothing to consume, and second that producers wait if the queue is full.
Your idea would let producers continue producing until they ran out of memory or some other resource.
There are two semaphores because there are two things we are keeping in check. First is that consumers wait if there is nothing to consume, and second that producers wait if the queue is full.
Your idea would let producers continue producing until they ran out of memory or some other resource.
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There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
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There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
There's an upper bound on the semaphore. It won't keep producing.
– aneesh joshi
Nov 12 at 0:36
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Wjat does 'synchronized' do, because you seem to be waiting inside it?
– Martin James
Nov 11 at 10:14
It's the monitor which Java provides. It's for making atomic statements on the semaphore object
– aneesh joshi
Nov 11 at 13:16