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MCU Cap & Buck vs Real Life German Special Forces















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#1
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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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#8
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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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#9
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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#12
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em














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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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The super soldiers win.












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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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#17
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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em















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#19
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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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#20
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They get shot.


No chance












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#21
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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?












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#22
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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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#23
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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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#24
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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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#25
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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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#26
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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?












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#27
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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.












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#29
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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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#30
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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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#31
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They die.












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#32
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em












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MCU Cap & Buck vs Real Life German Special Forces















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#1
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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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#2
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#3
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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#5
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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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#6
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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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#7
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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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#8
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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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#9
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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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#11
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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#12
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em














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#13
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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#14
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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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#15
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The super soldiers win.












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#16
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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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#17
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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em















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#18
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bump












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#19
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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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#20
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They get shot.


No chance












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#21
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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


Loading Video...

That guy is getting fired.




Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?












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#22
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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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#23
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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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#24
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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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#25
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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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#26
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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?












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#27
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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.












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#29
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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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#30
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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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#31
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They die.












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#32
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em












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#1
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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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#2
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#3
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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#5
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ANTHP2000
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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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#6
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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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#7
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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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#8
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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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That guy is getting fired.












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#9
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deltahuman
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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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#11
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Tenguswordsman
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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#12
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em














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#13
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ANTHP2000
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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#14
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ANTHP2000
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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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#15
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The super soldiers win.












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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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#17
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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em















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bump












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#19
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war of light_2814
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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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#20
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OriginalCaptain
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They get shot.


No chance












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#21
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TonyMartial
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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


Loading Video...

That guy is getting fired.




Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?












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#22
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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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#23
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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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#24
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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?












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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.












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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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#31
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They die.












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- 11 days, 7 hours ago
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em












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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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@anthp2000 said:

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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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The super soldiers win.












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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em















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#19
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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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#20
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They get shot.


No chance












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#21
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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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#22
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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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#23
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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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#24
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- 11 days, 21 hours ago
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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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#25
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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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#26
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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?












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#27
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- 11 days, 15 hours ago
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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
Edited by
ZubatCarteira
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- 11 days, 14 hours ago
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.












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#29
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- 11 days, 14 hours ago
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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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#30
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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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#31
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They die.












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#32
Posted by

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- 11 days, 7 hours ago
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em












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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#5
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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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#6
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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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#7
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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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#8
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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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#9
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#12
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em














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#13
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ANTHP2000
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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#15
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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The super soldiers win.












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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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#17
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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em















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#18
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#19
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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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#20
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They get shot.


No chance












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#21
Posted by

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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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That guy is getting fired.




Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?












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#22
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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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#23
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- 11 days, 21 hours ago
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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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#24
Posted by

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- 11 days, 21 hours ago
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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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#25
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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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#26
Posted by

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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?












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#27
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TonyMartial
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- 11 days, 15 hours ago
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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
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- 11 days, 14 hours ago
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.












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#29
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- 11 days, 14 hours ago
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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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#30
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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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#31
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- 11 days, 9 hours ago
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They die.












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#32
Posted by

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- 11 days, 7 hours ago
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em












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#1
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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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#4
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- 18 days, 19 hours ago
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#5
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ANTHP2000
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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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#6
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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#7
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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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#8
Edited by
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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That guy is getting fired.












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#9
Posted by

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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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#11
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#12
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em














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#13
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ANTHP2000
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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#14
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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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#15
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- 18 days, 18 hours ago
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The super soldiers win.












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#16
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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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#17
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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em















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#18
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#19
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war of light_2814
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- 15 days, 21 hours ago
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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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#20
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- 15 days, 20 hours ago
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They get shot.


No chance












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#21
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- 11 days, 21 hours ago
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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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They die.












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#32
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.












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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.












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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.












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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.












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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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@anthp2000 said:

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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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The super soldiers win.












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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.












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They get shot.


No chance












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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.












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#23
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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.












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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.












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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...












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#26
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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?












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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...












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#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.












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#29
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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...












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#30
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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.












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#31
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They die.












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#32
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KSK in a stomp.












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#33
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@anthp2000 said:

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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.








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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.








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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.







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Simple scenario, we use real life German KSK instead of movie ones.


Can Cap and Buck clear the area?


Same amount of soldiers.











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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em



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Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em





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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces



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#4
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It was GSG9 technically. They're basically the German SWAT. Also the results still the same although they might get shot because the KSK is possibly more elite due to being special forces





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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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#5
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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



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Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...





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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...



No they werent (?)


Unless I am missing something.


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@anthp2000 said:

Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...





@anthp2000 said:


Those were CIA agents that attacked Bucky's appartment...









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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.








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#7
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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.








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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.







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Movie fodders are stupid, real life soldiers would dogpile them.









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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.








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#9
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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.








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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.







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Their bodies get filled with lead.


No matter how skilled or strong they are, as long as they're not bulletproof, they'll get dropped.









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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.








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#10
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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.








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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.







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They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.









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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#11
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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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#11
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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.



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The duo have a much harder time, but can still survive.





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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em










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#12
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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em










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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em









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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em







@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em





@anthp2000 said:


Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em









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#13
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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#13
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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#13
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.



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#13
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@payneintheass:


You're right. They were just involved with the CIA department for terrorists.


OT: they clear, every bit as easily or easier. Just because CBM characters are fast enough to handle humans that easily, doesn't mean the fodder are stupid or incompetent.





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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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@the_magister:


You're too late.



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@the_magister:


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@the_magister:


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The super soldiers win.








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The super soldiers win.








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The super soldiers win.







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The super soldiers win.









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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.







@rebake said:

They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





@rebake said:


They can still clear, but the difficulty may be different. Cap's suit is bulletproof so getting hit a few times won't likely kill him, not to mention he wasn't doing most of the fighting in this scene while Bucky was. Cap was just assisting Bucky then and even saved someone from falling, but if he fought like he was fighting Iron Man or Outriders (which he will if he feels Bucky is in enough danger), special forces or not, they're going down if they're in his range. Bucky surviving all depends on if he blocks or dodges everything, his survivability is lower than Cap's due to lack of armor or wide shield.





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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em











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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em











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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em










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@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em








@the_magister said:


@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em






@the_magister said:



@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em





@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em




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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.








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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.








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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.







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Well, At least they wont be repeatly shooting at his hand this time.









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They get shot.


No chance








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They get shot.


No chance








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They get shot.


No chance







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They get shot.


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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?





@rbt said:


I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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@rbt said:



I'd like to think that real life SWATs are smart enough to shoot anywhere else other than Buck's arm.


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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.








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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.








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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.







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Depends on what weapons they have. They can definitely sniper Cap and Bucky from far away, but up close, they get creamed pretty fast.









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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.








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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.








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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.







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They get killed. Those fodders were dumb, some of them would rather unload an entire clip on Bucky's metal arm while he gets closer without them either switching their aim or movong for a better angle. Like seriously.









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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.








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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.








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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.







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@tonymartial:


Does the movie MCU production teams just dont want anyone to bullet time?


Honestly, maybe. They might think dodging bullets is too much for them. They probably have that reserved for speedsters only.









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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...








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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...








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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...







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@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...









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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?








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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?








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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?







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@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...



Why would they not care about the abilities and limitations of their characters?





@the_magister said:

@rbt: @tonymartial: I don't think the MCU production team cares at all...





@the_magister said:


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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...








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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...








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@rbt: @the_magister:I know David Leitch worked on the combat/stunts on Civil War and he made Deadpool bullet time in the sequel...







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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.








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#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.








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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.







#28
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Just rewatched the scene. There are times those guys just stand there pointing their guns and Bucky, then try to get close instead of just shooting him. And when they do shoot, they aim for the metal arm or shield and just keep shotting at the same spot till they get knocked out.


I think real-life elite soldiers would do a lot better. Those 2 should die horribly tbh, and, to be fair, so would most live action street levels if they fought anyone with decent aim.


It's not as bad as Arrow, at least.









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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...








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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...








#29
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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...







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They were attempting to capture not kill unless absolutely necessary...therefore the result stays the same from my perspective...









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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.








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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.








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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.







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MCU dies, there's no plot to force RL people to aim at shield and arm.









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They die.








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They die.








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They die.







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They die.









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KSK in a stomp.








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KSK in a stomp.








#32
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KSK in a stomp.







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KSK in a stomp.









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@anthp2000 said:

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@anthp2000 said:

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@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em







@anthp2000 said:

Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em





@anthp2000 said:


Inb4 movie fodder are stupid and RL smart soldiers would dogpile 'em









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