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#1
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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


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#2
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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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#8
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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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#10
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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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#12
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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


Otherwise, team can win with prep. IMO












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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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Team stomps.














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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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#1
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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


Chaos War Hercules












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#2
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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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#8
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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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#10
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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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#12
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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


Otherwise, team can win with prep. IMO












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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


Chaos War Hercules












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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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@mrstranger said:

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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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@mrstranger said:

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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.












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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?












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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.












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Team stomps.












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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse












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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?












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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.












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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.












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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.












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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.












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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.












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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.












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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.












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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.












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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.












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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.












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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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@mrstranger said:

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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


Chaos War Hercules








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#1
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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


Vs


Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


Classic Dr Fate


Chaos War Hercules








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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


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Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


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Battle takes place in cyttoraks realm


Win by Death or KO


Team has a week of prep


All characters bloodlusted


Composite Cyttorak


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Dormmamu


Classic Strange


Destroyer Odin


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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.








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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.








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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.







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It's pretty much Chaos War Hercules vs Cyttorak but since they're in Cyttorak's realm he simply depowers them and kills them.









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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?








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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?








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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?







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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?









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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.








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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.








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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.







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@acebomb98 said:

@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?



Not really since they're in a realm where Cyttorak has 100% of the control over it so only way would be outside it.





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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?





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@hellionvulcan: can they do anything with prep?













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Team stomps.








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Team stomps.








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Team stomps.







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Team stomps.









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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse








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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse








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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse







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@hellionvulcan: yea it’s pretty similar to entering shumas relm if not worse









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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?








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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?








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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?







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@rampagethefirst: is the team just too much or do certain characters secure the win?









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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.








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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.








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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.







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@acebomb98: Team is too much for Cyttorrak.









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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.








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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.








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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.







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@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.









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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.








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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.








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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.







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@acebomb98: Pretty sure they will take that into consideration with 1 week of prep and even if Cyttorak does manage to remove their connection from his source, it wont do him any good.









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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.








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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.








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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.







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@rampagethefirst: fare point. I feel likes one of those characters that could have great feats if they just used him more often. Also I like the super juggernaut or mega demon version over the sorcerer look from older comics.









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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.



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Cyttorak if is in the Crimson Cosmos.


Team otherwise.



@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.



What? No, that has nothing to do with anything.


The Living Tribunal has called upon Raggadorr and the Faltine(Which is Dormammu's power source), but that doesn't mean they can cut off from his his power. Entities call upon the power of other entities all the time, even Agamotto has called upon Mordo's spells on occasion. It doesn't mean anything, really.


Also, they only use the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, nothing else. They're not empowered by Cyttorak in any shape or form like you seem to be describing it.




@acebomb98 said:

@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.




@rampagethefirst: I know strange and dormammu use some of cyttorak’s powers(not directly like juggernaut) so is there a way cyttorak could weaken the power by cutting them off from the source.





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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.








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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.








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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.







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@andromeda101: it’s not nearly the same kind of bond like cyttorak and his heralds but ik dormmamu is like cytttoraks herald and strange uses some of the magic that came from cyttorak but I should have been more specific.









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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.



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@acebomb98: Dormammu isn't and has never been Cyttorak's herald or anything of the sort, I really don't know where did you get such information/notion. He doesn't serve anyone bar himself, if Dormammu is actually the herald of someone than supposedly would be only Lord Chaos, but those are just implications regardless.


Strange calls Cyttorak's powers in the form of the Crimson Bands, just like calls other Principalities, but he serves only the Vishanti and that's it.





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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


Otherwise, team can win with prep. IMO








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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


Otherwise, team can win with prep. IMO








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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


Otherwise, team can win with prep. IMO







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I think Cyttorak's only chance is to BFR everyone...


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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.








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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.








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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.







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@andromeda101: dormmamu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.









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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.



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@acebomb98 said:

@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.



I've read all appearances of both characters(Dormammu and Cyttorak) and so I can safely say all you said is straight up, pure fanfiction from your head. First off, Dormammu and Cyttorak have NEVER met(The only instance where they were seen close to each other was during Journey into Mystery#627 in the Hell Embassy, but even then the two never exchanged words) and Dormammu NEVER seemed scared of him, if he did then I don't think you'll have any problems in posting the scans which I already know that doesn't exist. Second, Dormammu doesn't use the same energy that Cyttorak does, no mystical entities use the same pattern of energy as others, but if what you're talking s true, then once again post the scans. And last, Dormammu would never do what Cyttorak tells him to do because that goes against his very characterization/personality, how much have you even read about Dormammu tbh? The very reason of why Dormmy attacked Eternity was to rebel from its commands, like I said, he doesn't serve any being sans himself and that's been established a long time ago.




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@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.




@andromeda101: Dormammu has seemed scared of cyttorak before and uses a lot of the same energy that cyttorak does. He’s not cyttoraks hentchmen but he would fall in line if cyttorak told him what to do.





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Team stomps.







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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.








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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.








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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.







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@andromeda101: I’ve seen much from both characters and I enjoy both but I’m not referencing a scan I saw but what other people have posted in dormmamu vs cyttorak threads which almost all end in cyttorak lobotomizing dormmamu.









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#20
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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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#20
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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.



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@acebomb98: I'm not questioning whatever Cyttorak is more powerful than Dormammu or not, I actually believe that's the case regardless, but one thing is opinion and another are facts. Saying Dormammu is afraid of him, is some type of herald or even that use the same energy-source are straight up lies and false information, that simple. I don't know who told you those things, but if isn't backed up by something aside from opinion like scans or things of the sort, then you shouldn't believe it.





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#21
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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.








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#21
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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.








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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.







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@andromeda101: I saw no sense to ask for scans when it came to that simple based on the fact the cyttorak is quite more powerful then most demons and a lot of the time the writer prove it with statements from other characters that are also powerful simply because cyttorak himself doesn’t get envolved that often.









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#22
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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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#22
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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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#22
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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.




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#22
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@acebomb98: Those are completely unrelated things and I may as far to say it's an example of false equivalence, really. How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later be his herald? How does Cyttorak being more powerful than Dormammu makes the later necessarily afraid of him? How does Cyttorak being more powerful mean they use the same energy-source? You're missing the point tbh. Speaking of which, Dormammu was called something worse than a demon multiple times as well, so I wouldn't say Cyttorak supposedly being above them means much because he's also ranked as a demon by some sources and to be frank with you, I would argue the reason of why Cyttoak isn't involved more in events is actually because writers don't like him or know how to use him...Cyttorak is pretty unpopular as a character, unlike beings such as Mephisto, Dormammu and so on.






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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.








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#23
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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.








#23
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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.







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For now, Cyttorak, considering it's in his realm.









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#24
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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.








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#24
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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.








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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.







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@andromeda101: I was giving an example of why I had no reason to ask for scans from the person that told me dorm mamu was afraid of him not an example of why dormmamu would be hisvherald, U missed the point. Cyttorak herald juggernaut is very popular so if they used cyttorak more he would gain popularity. And no cyttorak being more powerful doesn’t mean they draw there power from the same source it’s the fact that I’ve heard multiple times that dormmamu draws his power from the same source as cyttorak.









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#25
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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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#25
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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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#25
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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.



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#25
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@acebomb98: It's still the same concept, really. Why based on the fact that Cyttorak is more powerful than him would mean all the other claims are also true? For me its basically the same that while Dr.Strange is more than likely more powerful than Surfer, then I can also assume that as an evidence for they sharing the same power source(Which is far from true).It makes absolutely no sense that line of reasoning, that's why I said that you shouldn't trust in everything going by comely unrelated evidence and ask for the scans, I actually have the ones who back my point if you want. Yes, Juggernaut's related to Cyttorak, but tell me: How many sources aside from the comics have cited Cyttorak's name or the fact that Cain's power is mostly mystical in nature instead of genetic like the other mutants? Juggernaut himself is pretty well-known, not Cyttorak...Just like Dr.Strange is now quite famous, but most people never heard of The Vishanti. Like I said, you shouldn't take everything you hear as an indisputable fact, same applies to my posts as well.





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@mrstranger said:

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@mrstranger said:

Team stomps.










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@mrstranger said:

Team stomps.









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@mrstranger said:

Team stomps.







@mrstranger said:

Team stomps.





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Team stomps.



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