Finding number of solutions when condition is given.
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Q - Find number of solutions when it is given that Re(z²) = 0 and |z| = a $sqrt2$ , where z is a complex number and a>0.
First I assumed $z = x + iy$ and then squared it and equated the real part to $0$.
I don't know how to approach after that.
Please guide.
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Q - Find number of solutions when it is given that Re(z²) = 0 and |z| = a $sqrt2$ , where z is a complex number and a>0.
First I assumed $z = x + iy$ and then squared it and equated the real part to $0$.
I don't know how to approach after that.
Please guide.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
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One solution is $z=1+i$. Can you generalize this to more solutions? Consider when $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$.
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– Robert Thingum
Nov 12 '18 at 4:14
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@RobertThingum how did you get this answer?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:16
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Q - Find number of solutions when it is given that Re(z²) = 0 and |z| = a $sqrt2$ , where z is a complex number and a>0.
First I assumed $z = x + iy$ and then squared it and equated the real part to $0$.
I don't know how to approach after that.
Please guide.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
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Q - Find number of solutions when it is given that Re(z²) = 0 and |z| = a $sqrt2$ , where z is a complex number and a>0.
First I assumed $z = x + iy$ and then squared it and equated the real part to $0$.
I don't know how to approach after that.
Please guide.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
complex-analysis complex-numbers
edited Nov 15 '18 at 2:40
Kaustuv Sawarn
asked Nov 12 '18 at 4:05
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One solution is $z=1+i$. Can you generalize this to more solutions? Consider when $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$.
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– Robert Thingum
Nov 12 '18 at 4:14
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@RobertThingum how did you get this answer?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:16
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One solution is $z=1+i$. Can you generalize this to more solutions? Consider when $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$.
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– Robert Thingum
Nov 12 '18 at 4:14
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@RobertThingum how did you get this answer?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:16
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One solution is $z=1+i$. Can you generalize this to more solutions? Consider when $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$.
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– Robert Thingum
Nov 12 '18 at 4:14
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One solution is $z=1+i$. Can you generalize this to more solutions? Consider when $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$.
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– Robert Thingum
Nov 12 '18 at 4:14
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@RobertThingum how did you get this answer?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:16
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@RobertThingum how did you get this answer?
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Let $z=re^itheta$. Then
$Re(z^2)=0$, implies $r^2cos(2theta)=0$.- Also $|z|=asqrt2$ implies $r=asqrt2 neq 0$.
From these two, we get $cos(2theta)=0$. This implies $2theta=frac(2n+1)pi2$ or $theta=frac(2n+1)pi4$.
Thus $z=asqrt2e^ifrac(2n+1)pi4$, where $n in BbbZ$. Now you can count the distinct solutions out of these as:
beginalign*
z& =asqrt2e^ifracpi4=aleft(1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac3pi4=aleft(-1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac5pi4=aleft(-1-iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac7pi4=aleft(1-iright).
endalign*
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
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@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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Let $z=a+bi$ where $i$ is the imaginary unit and $a,binmathbbR$.
The condition $Re(z^2)=0$ means that $a^2=b^2$ because,
$$z^2=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2=(a^2+b^2)+2abi$$
Then $Re(z^2)=0$ implies $a^2-b^2=0$ which gives us that $a^2=b^2$.
Now the condition that $|z|=alphasqrt2$ for some $alpha>0$ means, by definition that
$$|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
Squaring both sides will give us that
$$a^2+b^2=alpha^22$$
We could just say that $a^2+b^2=2beta$ for some $beta>0$. Note then that we have a system of two linear equations with two unkowns ($a^2$ and $b^2$).
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=beta2$$
Of course $beta$ depends on $a$ and $b$, but that doesn't make things very difficult. Setting $a=b=1$ and $beta=1$ yields one solution. Setting $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$ yields another solution with $beta=2^n$.
Using some basic linear algebra you can show that for every $beta>0$ there is some choice of $a$ and $b$ that will solve the system.
Choosing $beta=1$ we get that choosing $a=pm1$ and $b=pm$ yields a solution. In general for a specific $beta=alpha^2$ where $alpha>0$ we have (taking into account Anurag A's solution) that any of $a=pmalpha$ and $b=pmalpha$ will suffice. To see this note that
$$a^2-b^2=(pmalpha)^2-(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2-alpha^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=(pmalpha)^2+(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2+alpha^2=2alpha^2=2beta$$
So, as Anurag A showed, for a given $alpha>0$ there are exactly four solutions.
$$alpha+alpha i$$
$$alpha-alpha i$$
$$-alpha+alpha i$$
$$-alpha-alpha i$$
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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But the answer is given as 4.
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It's probably assuming that $z = a+ib$;
So from here
$z^2=(a+ib)^2=a^2+2ib-b^2=a^2-b^2+i(2b)$
-Put it this way so you can see $Re(z^2)=a^2-b^2=0$
And $|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$
And now we know:
$$sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
Since it's given that $alpha>0$, you can square both sides of the first equation without changing anything:
$a^2+b^2=2alpha^2$
$a^2-b^2=0$
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I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
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Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
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– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
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Let $z=re^itheta$. Then
$Re(z^2)=0$, implies $r^2cos(2theta)=0$.- Also $|z|=asqrt2$ implies $r=asqrt2 neq 0$.
From these two, we get $cos(2theta)=0$. This implies $2theta=frac(2n+1)pi2$ or $theta=frac(2n+1)pi4$.
Thus $z=asqrt2e^ifrac(2n+1)pi4$, where $n in BbbZ$. Now you can count the distinct solutions out of these as:
beginalign*
z& =asqrt2e^ifracpi4=aleft(1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac3pi4=aleft(-1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac5pi4=aleft(-1-iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac7pi4=aleft(1-iright).
endalign*
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
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@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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Let $z=re^itheta$. Then
$Re(z^2)=0$, implies $r^2cos(2theta)=0$.- Also $|z|=asqrt2$ implies $r=asqrt2 neq 0$.
From these two, we get $cos(2theta)=0$. This implies $2theta=frac(2n+1)pi2$ or $theta=frac(2n+1)pi4$.
Thus $z=asqrt2e^ifrac(2n+1)pi4$, where $n in BbbZ$. Now you can count the distinct solutions out of these as:
beginalign*
z& =asqrt2e^ifracpi4=aleft(1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac3pi4=aleft(-1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac5pi4=aleft(-1-iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac7pi4=aleft(1-iright).
endalign*
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
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@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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Let $z=re^itheta$. Then
$Re(z^2)=0$, implies $r^2cos(2theta)=0$.- Also $|z|=asqrt2$ implies $r=asqrt2 neq 0$.
From these two, we get $cos(2theta)=0$. This implies $2theta=frac(2n+1)pi2$ or $theta=frac(2n+1)pi4$.
Thus $z=asqrt2e^ifrac(2n+1)pi4$, where $n in BbbZ$. Now you can count the distinct solutions out of these as:
beginalign*
z& =asqrt2e^ifracpi4=aleft(1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac3pi4=aleft(-1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac5pi4=aleft(-1-iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac7pi4=aleft(1-iright).
endalign*
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Let $z=re^itheta$. Then
$Re(z^2)=0$, implies $r^2cos(2theta)=0$.- Also $|z|=asqrt2$ implies $r=asqrt2 neq 0$.
From these two, we get $cos(2theta)=0$. This implies $2theta=frac(2n+1)pi2$ or $theta=frac(2n+1)pi4$.
Thus $z=asqrt2e^ifrac(2n+1)pi4$, where $n in BbbZ$. Now you can count the distinct solutions out of these as:
beginalign*
z& =asqrt2e^ifracpi4=aleft(1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac3pi4=aleft(-1+iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac5pi4=aleft(-1-iright)\
z&=asqrt2e^ifrac7pi4=aleft(1-iright).
endalign*
edited Nov 12 '18 at 4:31
answered Nov 12 '18 at 4:25
Anurag AAnurag A
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
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@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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show 2 more comments
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
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@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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So, this means that there can only be 4 solutions to this question, right? Because from 9pi/4 answers will repeat. Isn't it?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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@KaustuvSawarn Yes, only 4 distinct solutions.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:52
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Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
$begingroup$
Thankyou so much! I didn't approached with the exponential form. Isn't there any way this question can be solved assuming $z= a+ ib$ ? I mean I understood how to solve this assuming exponential form, but I'm just curious than can this be solved using $z = a+ ib$ form?
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:56
$begingroup$
@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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@KaustuvSawarn It can be solved with $z=a+ib$ approach as well. Look at Robert Thingum's approach. However as you can see it is a bit longer and arguably less elegant. Usually, whenever powers of complex numbers are involved, the polar form ($r,theta$) form is helpful.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:58
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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Yes, oh I didn't notice the edit on his answer. I'm sorry.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 5:02
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show 2 more comments
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Let $z=a+bi$ where $i$ is the imaginary unit and $a,binmathbbR$.
The condition $Re(z^2)=0$ means that $a^2=b^2$ because,
$$z^2=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2=(a^2+b^2)+2abi$$
Then $Re(z^2)=0$ implies $a^2-b^2=0$ which gives us that $a^2=b^2$.
Now the condition that $|z|=alphasqrt2$ for some $alpha>0$ means, by definition that
$$|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
Squaring both sides will give us that
$$a^2+b^2=alpha^22$$
We could just say that $a^2+b^2=2beta$ for some $beta>0$. Note then that we have a system of two linear equations with two unkowns ($a^2$ and $b^2$).
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=beta2$$
Of course $beta$ depends on $a$ and $b$, but that doesn't make things very difficult. Setting $a=b=1$ and $beta=1$ yields one solution. Setting $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$ yields another solution with $beta=2^n$.
Using some basic linear algebra you can show that for every $beta>0$ there is some choice of $a$ and $b$ that will solve the system.
Choosing $beta=1$ we get that choosing $a=pm1$ and $b=pm$ yields a solution. In general for a specific $beta=alpha^2$ where $alpha>0$ we have (taking into account Anurag A's solution) that any of $a=pmalpha$ and $b=pmalpha$ will suffice. To see this note that
$$a^2-b^2=(pmalpha)^2-(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2-alpha^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=(pmalpha)^2+(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2+alpha^2=2alpha^2=2beta$$
So, as Anurag A showed, for a given $alpha>0$ there are exactly four solutions.
$$alpha+alpha i$$
$$alpha-alpha i$$
$$-alpha+alpha i$$
$$-alpha-alpha i$$
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:36
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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But the answer is given as 4.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:40
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show 3 more comments
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Let $z=a+bi$ where $i$ is the imaginary unit and $a,binmathbbR$.
The condition $Re(z^2)=0$ means that $a^2=b^2$ because,
$$z^2=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2=(a^2+b^2)+2abi$$
Then $Re(z^2)=0$ implies $a^2-b^2=0$ which gives us that $a^2=b^2$.
Now the condition that $|z|=alphasqrt2$ for some $alpha>0$ means, by definition that
$$|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
Squaring both sides will give us that
$$a^2+b^2=alpha^22$$
We could just say that $a^2+b^2=2beta$ for some $beta>0$. Note then that we have a system of two linear equations with two unkowns ($a^2$ and $b^2$).
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=beta2$$
Of course $beta$ depends on $a$ and $b$, but that doesn't make things very difficult. Setting $a=b=1$ and $beta=1$ yields one solution. Setting $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$ yields another solution with $beta=2^n$.
Using some basic linear algebra you can show that for every $beta>0$ there is some choice of $a$ and $b$ that will solve the system.
Choosing $beta=1$ we get that choosing $a=pm1$ and $b=pm$ yields a solution. In general for a specific $beta=alpha^2$ where $alpha>0$ we have (taking into account Anurag A's solution) that any of $a=pmalpha$ and $b=pmalpha$ will suffice. To see this note that
$$a^2-b^2=(pmalpha)^2-(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2-alpha^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=(pmalpha)^2+(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2+alpha^2=2alpha^2=2beta$$
So, as Anurag A showed, for a given $alpha>0$ there are exactly four solutions.
$$alpha+alpha i$$
$$alpha-alpha i$$
$$-alpha+alpha i$$
$$-alpha-alpha i$$
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:36
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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But the answer is given as 4.
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Nov 12 '18 at 4:40
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Let $z=a+bi$ where $i$ is the imaginary unit and $a,binmathbbR$.
The condition $Re(z^2)=0$ means that $a^2=b^2$ because,
$$z^2=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2=(a^2+b^2)+2abi$$
Then $Re(z^2)=0$ implies $a^2-b^2=0$ which gives us that $a^2=b^2$.
Now the condition that $|z|=alphasqrt2$ for some $alpha>0$ means, by definition that
$$|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
Squaring both sides will give us that
$$a^2+b^2=alpha^22$$
We could just say that $a^2+b^2=2beta$ for some $beta>0$. Note then that we have a system of two linear equations with two unkowns ($a^2$ and $b^2$).
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=beta2$$
Of course $beta$ depends on $a$ and $b$, but that doesn't make things very difficult. Setting $a=b=1$ and $beta=1$ yields one solution. Setting $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$ yields another solution with $beta=2^n$.
Using some basic linear algebra you can show that for every $beta>0$ there is some choice of $a$ and $b$ that will solve the system.
Choosing $beta=1$ we get that choosing $a=pm1$ and $b=pm$ yields a solution. In general for a specific $beta=alpha^2$ where $alpha>0$ we have (taking into account Anurag A's solution) that any of $a=pmalpha$ and $b=pmalpha$ will suffice. To see this note that
$$a^2-b^2=(pmalpha)^2-(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2-alpha^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=(pmalpha)^2+(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2+alpha^2=2alpha^2=2beta$$
So, as Anurag A showed, for a given $alpha>0$ there are exactly four solutions.
$$alpha+alpha i$$
$$alpha-alpha i$$
$$-alpha+alpha i$$
$$-alpha-alpha i$$
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Let $z=a+bi$ where $i$ is the imaginary unit and $a,binmathbbR$.
The condition $Re(z^2)=0$ means that $a^2=b^2$ because,
$$z^2=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2=(a^2+b^2)+2abi$$
Then $Re(z^2)=0$ implies $a^2-b^2=0$ which gives us that $a^2=b^2$.
Now the condition that $|z|=alphasqrt2$ for some $alpha>0$ means, by definition that
$$|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
Squaring both sides will give us that
$$a^2+b^2=alpha^22$$
We could just say that $a^2+b^2=2beta$ for some $beta>0$. Note then that we have a system of two linear equations with two unkowns ($a^2$ and $b^2$).
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=beta2$$
Of course $beta$ depends on $a$ and $b$, but that doesn't make things very difficult. Setting $a=b=1$ and $beta=1$ yields one solution. Setting $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$ yields another solution with $beta=2^n$.
Using some basic linear algebra you can show that for every $beta>0$ there is some choice of $a$ and $b$ that will solve the system.
Choosing $beta=1$ we get that choosing $a=pm1$ and $b=pm$ yields a solution. In general for a specific $beta=alpha^2$ where $alpha>0$ we have (taking into account Anurag A's solution) that any of $a=pmalpha$ and $b=pmalpha$ will suffice. To see this note that
$$a^2-b^2=(pmalpha)^2-(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2-alpha^2=0$$
$$a^2+b^2=(pmalpha)^2+(pmalpha)^2=alpha^2+alpha^2=2alpha^2=2beta$$
So, as Anurag A showed, for a given $alpha>0$ there are exactly four solutions.
$$alpha+alpha i$$
$$alpha-alpha i$$
$$-alpha+alpha i$$
$$-alpha-alpha i$$
edited Nov 12 '18 at 4:49
answered Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
Robert ThingumRobert Thingum
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:36
1
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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But the answer is given as 4.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:40
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show 3 more comments
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
$endgroup$
– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:36
1
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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But the answer is given as 4.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:40
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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How does it tell you the number of distinct solutions?
$endgroup$
– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:34
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Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:36
$begingroup$
Does this mean that there is an infinite number of solutions of this question? I mean there can be infinite number of 'a' and 'b'
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:36
1
1
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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@KaustuvSawarn for a given $a$, the number of distinct solutions is finite. See my answer.
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– Anurag A
Nov 12 '18 at 4:37
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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No. The question is for general $alpha$, it just says $alpha$ is greater than zero in the question
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:39
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But the answer is given as 4.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:40
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But the answer is given as 4.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:40
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show 3 more comments
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It's probably assuming that $z = a+ib$;
So from here
$z^2=(a+ib)^2=a^2+2ib-b^2=a^2-b^2+i(2b)$
-Put it this way so you can see $Re(z^2)=a^2-b^2=0$
And $|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$
And now we know:
$$sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
Since it's given that $alpha>0$, you can square both sides of the first equation without changing anything:
$a^2+b^2=2alpha^2$
$a^2-b^2=0$
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I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
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Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
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– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
add a comment |
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It's probably assuming that $z = a+ib$;
So from here
$z^2=(a+ib)^2=a^2+2ib-b^2=a^2-b^2+i(2b)$
-Put it this way so you can see $Re(z^2)=a^2-b^2=0$
And $|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$
And now we know:
$$sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
Since it's given that $alpha>0$, you can square both sides of the first equation without changing anything:
$a^2+b^2=2alpha^2$
$a^2-b^2=0$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
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Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
$endgroup$
– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
add a comment |
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It's probably assuming that $z = a+ib$;
So from here
$z^2=(a+ib)^2=a^2+2ib-b^2=a^2-b^2+i(2b)$
-Put it this way so you can see $Re(z^2)=a^2-b^2=0$
And $|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$
And now we know:
$$sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
Since it's given that $alpha>0$, you can square both sides of the first equation without changing anything:
$a^2+b^2=2alpha^2$
$a^2-b^2=0$
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It's probably assuming that $z = a+ib$;
So from here
$z^2=(a+ib)^2=a^2+2ib-b^2=a^2-b^2+i(2b)$
-Put it this way so you can see $Re(z^2)=a^2-b^2=0$
And $|z|=sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$
And now we know:
$$sqrta^2+b^2=alphasqrt2$$
$$a^2-b^2=0$$
Since it's given that $alpha>0$, you can square both sides of the first equation without changing anything:
$a^2+b^2=2alpha^2$
$a^2-b^2=0$
edited Nov 12 '18 at 4:32
answered Nov 12 '18 at 4:12
AleksaAleksa
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I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
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– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
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Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
$endgroup$
– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
$begingroup$
Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
$endgroup$
– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
$begingroup$
I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
$begingroup$
I've reached till here but I don't understand what to do after getting this.
$endgroup$
– Kaustuv Sawarn
Nov 12 '18 at 4:17
$begingroup$
Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
$endgroup$
– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
$begingroup$
Since it's said that $a>0$, you can just square both sides of the first equation to get $a^2+b^2=2a^2$
$endgroup$
– Aleksa
Nov 12 '18 at 4:22
add a comment |
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One solution is $z=1+i$. Can you generalize this to more solutions? Consider when $a=b=2^n$ for some natural number $n$.
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