Vs

Title is pretty much self explanatory

Guy starts in 8gates(the gate of death)

Kizaru is bloodlusted as hell cuz guy killed sentomaru

CHAKRA≠HAKI

win by death or k.o

Ooooh this is a good one....but since pressure waves can move photons he can still tag him in light form theoretically. Night guy oneshots though and Kizaru doesnt have knowledge about it. Outside of lightform Kizaru is a VERY vulnerable target.

Could go either way, Guy is already putting his life on the line by going 8th; I doubt he's going to have many morals either. I might side with Kizaru ever so slightly.

Guy stomps.

Could go either way but I'm gonna go with kizaru he can avoid and Outlast guy he could even disperse himself anytime guy tries to hit him just to kill time and toy with him

Lizard can’t react to Guy so Guy blitz before he goes intangible.

How does guy hurt Kizaru exactly? or stop Kizaru from dispersing into light particles before night guy or evening elephant?

@jko1: kizaru is intangible even while being snipe while he was making a phone call with his back turned away

@hope_w: sound waves move photons too doesn’t mean they actually do damage to kizaru like with apoo who used sound wave based explosions to bisect kizaru which did no damage.

Anything can move ice yet you need haki or an elemental counter to hurt aokiji

Just interacting with the logia element doesn’t mean you can hurt their true bodies

Also there is no outside of light form for kizaru, he is light always unless you have haki or his unknown inverse elemental counter which I assume will be Blackbeard’s darkness fruit.

Logias are always their element

Guy can’t hurt kizaru

Kizaru wins

@jko1: logias are always their element, there is no choosing to be intangible.

Kizaru mid to high diff.

Kizaru

How is Guy hurting him?

Kizaru has to leave his light state to physically attack, and Rayleigh and WB have reacted to him. And they both are slower and weaker than 8 Gates Gai

But wait this is bloodlusted Kizaru ? That could change things. As Gai has more attack power and durability but outclassed in speed area

This entirely depends if Guy can damage Kizaru or not. I'll say probably not, so Kizaru wins by default since Guy's move kills himself.

@hope_w: apoo didn’t hurt him, he separated his photons and kizaru took no damage from it. They just reformed his body.

No scattering croc in the wind won’t hurt him, because he’ll just reform. He is sand

I don’t think you understand what logias are, they are their element.

There is no case you can make for guy stomping 10/10 times LOL

Guy kills himself trying to hurt kizaru there is no debate lol

Seven gate lose, eight gate stomps.

Kizaru mid diff

A bloodlusted kizaru stomps

Could go either way

Guy can’t logically win under these circumstances. His punches will go right through kizaru

Either you haven't watched one piece or you didn't pay close attention to how logia devil fruit works

And a bloodlusted kizaru would speed blitz the entire Naruto cast if he felt like it .. that's a fact

This fanbase is toxic.

@hope_w: dude anything can touch him, even a bullet shot through his head moved his photons, but it did no damage since he is light.

Kizaru already tanked an island busting explosion in movie Z which was written by oda, he just reformed from light particles like always.

That’s the thing you don’t understand, a logias doesn’t need the every “piece” of his body to reform this has been shown countless times. Aokiji has reformed from tiny pieces of ice, with your logic he would need all the pieces of ice from his broken body, which he did not.

Crocodile could reform his body from any small piece of his sand because he is sand and he creates sand.

Same way aokiji has on panel

Guys wind would solidly akainus magma? LMAO

Akainu casually vaporized a million ton+ block of ice Jozu threw at him which dwarfed multiple giants.

You actually have no idea what you are talking about.

He is lightspeed when using his light mirror move which moves him around as and actual beam of light, not debatable and has been confirmed by oda

It’s hilarious that you are calling anyone else toxic when you are on here baby raging and throwing insults when you have 0 knowledge about the source material you are attempting to debate lol

Even more hilarious, someone tried to hurt Enel with a shockwave device and they had to use sea stone prism which disables devil fruit powers to hurt him.

They had to disable his logia intangibility before a shockwave could damage his real body.

Crocodile gets his head cut off by Doflamingo, and just regrows his head while the flying one turns into sand.