The Assassination Classroom

The Superhuman Classroom

Rules & Stipulations

• Class 3-E has full knowledge on 1-A as well as two days of preparation on their mountain


• Class 1-A knows that a group of skilled assassins will be coming for them, but nothing else


• Kayano, Itona, and the other teachers are present, but Koro-Sensei himself is not present


• Kayano and Itona will have full access to their Tentacle Cells without any adverse effects


• For the sake of fairness, none of the teachers or instructors from Class 1-A will be available


• The battle will take place as an ambush at U.A. High School in the very middle of the day


• Victory will be achieved only by the death of all opponents on either side of this battle

Callouts

I’ll say Class 1A. The assassins would need to kill Deku, Shoto, Ida, Tokorami and Bakugo at the same time with stealth, otherwise they’d lose. Then it’d still be an uphill battle against guys like Froppy, Earphone Jack and Ojiro. Plus, Invisible Girl could give them trouble:

I think you're forgetting about Kayano and Itona who have individually kept up with the Mach 20 Koro-Sensei in terms of speed, and they even have preparation here. I'm not combating your decision, just pointing out some things that might make you see things differently.

It sounds like Class E-3 is too fast.

Only two members are that fast, and their damage output is relatively low when compared to that of Class 1-A. In terms of versatility, they're also beat pretty bad, hence the preparation I gave them. If you need more information, a respect thread for the entire class can be found here.

@valorknight: You’re right that I forgot about that, it’s been a good minute since I watched Assassination Classroom.

It's no big deal, man. If you don't mind, what is your opinion on the fight now?

Kayano and Itona are good, but the others are basically fodder.
With the UA class knowing they're going to be attacked they won't do anything stupid like getting sniped, and now most of them have actual serious combat experience.
The heroes win, bakugo, midoriya, iida and todoroki can win a 2vs1 against kayano or itona given their good speed feats and/or AOE while the other guys can easily take care of the rest and eventually gang up on Kayano and Itona if needed.

@pierpat: I don't see why the assassins would engage in a head-on fight, especially when they have preparation. I'd also like to point out that both Karma and Nagisa are faster than the eye can see, and the latter has his Nekodamashi technique should he need it.

Considering mido, shoto's moves and iida are both FTE and most of the class can now at least perceive them i wouldn't say them being FTE is really that worrying, not when they have to fight guys that have AoE and quite a bit of tricks and powers up their sleeves.

I'm not saying they'll engage a head-on fight, but even with the benefit of fighting on their own terms the OP states the heroes now skilled assassins are coming for them, and they're smart kids, that can rule out them falling into the most obvious traps or getting separated.

That said, even with prep and gear i can't see the AC team taking an aware UA 1-a.

I think the heroes win after skimming the respect thread.

@pierpat:

Considering mido, shoto's moves and iida are both FTE and most of the class can now at least react to them i wouldn't say them being FTE is really that worrying, not when they have to fight guys that have AoE and quite a bit of tricks and powers up their sleeves.

I agree, but they aren't getting blitzed either, nor would they be engaging in a brawl when they don't need to.

I'm not saying they'll engage a head-on fight, but even with the benefit of fighting on their own terms the OP states the heroes now skilled assassins are coming for them, and they're smart kids, that can rule out them falling into the most obvious traps or getting separated.

I'm sure they could, but what about the not-so-obvious traps? If they can very nearly kill someone like Koro-Sensei on a daily basis, then Class 1-A is definitely not getting off scot-free.

That said, even with prep and gear i can't see the AC team taking an aware UA 1-a.

It's an ambush, so their opponents have no idea when or where they'll be coming from. It's a close fight as far as I can tell, and I think you're underselling the assassins a bit here.

Any specific reasons?

Of course you think it's balanced, it's your thread.
Them knowing assassins are coming will cause them to be on guard until they arrive, so the when part isn't really relevant.

The where could be, but again it's not relevant enough to close the gap that i see between the teams. They got to almost kill Koro-sensei once they actually had tried a lot of stuff and gotten to know him really well, they don't have the benefit of trying daily for years here, so the feats against koro-sensei are worth only up to a certain point.

Just to be clear: i don't think this is a stomp, some UA kids may die, i just think they take a clear majority.

@pierpat:

Them knowing assassins are coming will cause them to be on guard until they arrive, so the when part isn't really relevant.

Until they arrive how exactly? If they don't know who they are, what they look like, or what their capabilities are, how does knowing that they're coming give them that big of an advantage?

They got to almost kill Koro-sensei once they actually had tried a lot of stuff and gotten to know him really well,

False. In only their second day with him, they almost killed him multiple times even without the preparation and knowledge they have here (there's also the fact that Koro-Sensei is much faster and smarter than anyone in Class 1-A).

they don't have the benefit of trying daily for years here,

They were with him for less than a year, and had to gather their information on-the-job. In this situation, they already have knowledge on the class, as well as two days to prepare.

so the feats against koro-sensei are worth only up to a certain point.

Not really.

I'm not saying that it gives them a "huge advantage", i'm just saying that they'll be expecting something. Thus they'll be battle-ready and united, and that's more than enough for these opponents.

On the second day koro-sensei admitted he was not being serious, and even scolded them for not being even close.

If I'm remembering incorrectly please post the feat, because i really can't recall what you're saying.

Koro sensei being faster and smarter matters little when you're comparing a 20vs1 to a 20vs20, tbh.

I can't see how knowledge from infos compares to knowing someone on a personal level by being with them and him actually explaining his weaknesses to you and giving you the choice to do trial and error, it's not comparable.

They seem to favor nonlethal weapons when dealing with humans(based on the respect thread) which isn't going to cut it. Their physicals also didn't seem very good, so many class a students are capable of one shotting their opponents it seems.

@pierpat:

I'm not saying that it gives them a "huge advantage", i'm just saying that they'll be expecting something. Thus they'll be battle-ready and united, and that's more than enough for these opponents.

These opponents who are all unassuming high school students? Yeah, like they're going to readily attack a group like that (especially when they have the element of surprise).

On the second day koro-sensei admitted he was not being serious, and even scolded them for not being even close.

Nagisa would have killed him had he not had his monthly molting at the ready.

Koro sensei being faster and smarter matters little when you're comparing a 20vs1 to a 20vs20, tbh.

This is actually a twenty versus thirty-one (including Itona, Karasuma, Irina, and Lovro), so it definitely matters considering the difference in numbers, skill, and intent.

I can't see how knowledge from infos compares to knowing someone on a personal level by being with them and him actually explaining his weaknesses to you and giving you the choice to do trial and error, it's not comparable.

They have full knowledge here, it's literally the same as what they had for Koro-Sensei if not better.

@pierpat:

The fight takes place in the UA's home turf, that is a high-security sleep in college, they know who's around where, them being unassuming high school students does not make them stand out less.

Proof that they know the identity of every student on the campus or would attack them even if they did?

But didn't he admit he was going easy on them? Doesn't he scold him for doing poorly?

No, he did not. In fact, he claimed that he had no intention of letting them kill him, and the only thing he scolded them for was the endangerment of their fellow student.

Because of course having a 11 men advantage in a 20 vs 31 is comparable to a 28vs1, right? the numbers where vague on purpose.

It is when your opponents know literally everything there is to know about you and have two days of preparation specifically to kill you.

Full knowledge does not give you trial and error

The two days of preparation does, as they could come up with hundreds of different scenarios over those two days.

@valorknight: I think it’s fair, 3-E stands a chance due to their prep and ambush and 1A’s relative inexperience

Cool, I feel the same way.