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#1
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Location:
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Rules:
- Team Taka from the Kage Summit
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- Gai can open up to 7 Gates.
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- Victory by death or KO
- Combatants start 30 metres apart
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#2
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Team Gai
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Team Gai.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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#10
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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#11
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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#14
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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#18
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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#19
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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#20
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Team Taka has my vote.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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#23
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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#24
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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#25
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@streak619: Forgot to tag you, see above.
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#27
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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#28
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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#29
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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Team Guy only due to Guy.
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#34
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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#1
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Location:
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- Team Taka from the Kage Summit
- Team Gai from War Arc
- Gai can open up to 7 Gates.
- Random encounter
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- Combatants start 30 metres apart
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#2
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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Team Guy only due to Guy.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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#24
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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#26
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@streak619: Forgot to tag you, see above.
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#27
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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#29
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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#33
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Team Guy only due to Guy.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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Location:
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Rules:
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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#18
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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#21
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@streak619: Forgot to tag you, see above.
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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#29
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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#32
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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#33
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Team Guy only due to Guy.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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Location:
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Rules:
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- Team Gai from War Arc
- Gai can open up to 7 Gates.
- Random encounter
- Victory by death or KO
- Combatants start 30 metres apart
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Team Gai
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Team Gai.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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#18
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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#21
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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#24
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@streak619: Forgot to tag you, see above.
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#27
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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#29
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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#32
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Team Gai.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@streak619: Forgot to tag you, see above.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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Team Guy only due to Guy.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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Location:
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- Gai can open up to 7 Gates.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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Team Gai due to Gai and Lee
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Team Gai wins.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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Team Guy only due to Guy.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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Gai goes 8 gates and gg
Just read the OP.
I still say team gai. Simply due to the fact that guy beat kisame in his own enviroment w/o using 8 gates.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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I'd take team guy
I think neji or lee could take either suigetsu or jugo
Ten Ten kills karin( she did nothing but heal and sense at this point)
Guy can fight with Sasuke. Once it becomes like 4 on 1 neji just needs to get one get hit same with lee or guy.
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Team Guy takes it, and Guy can beat Taka Sasuke with Gates
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Uh...team Gai stomps, Lee probably solos.
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Team Gai
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai.
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Team Gai.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Guy is too fast and none of them can tank a Hirudora..or Morning Peacock even.
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Afternoon tiger one shots
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Guy solos,7 gates gg hirudora shook an island and that's when he's not going for the kill since he wasn't trying to kill kisame to get Intel from him
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Sasuke > Gai. Hirudora is about the only thing that can beat Sasuke and it sure as hell isn't an opening move. Gai has no durability so even a single arrow would kill him. As well as the rest of Sasuke's jutsu.
Juugo > Lee.
Suigetsu > Neji. Gentle Fist won't work on him.
Karin >> Tenten. Those Uzumaki chains are high tier stuff.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Guy is too strong with 7 gates. He could probably solo if he doesn't get caught in a serious genjutsu off the bat. Other than that, Karen is actually a lot more useful than Tenten is, especially in a team battle like this. I don't see Lee/Neji beating Suigetsu/Jugo in either separate 1v1's or in a 2v2. Guy really carries the load here.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Team Gai. Not even Kage Summit Sasuke has an answer for the 7th gate and keep in mind the more Sasuke spams his MS abilities, the more it'll take it's toll on him. And contrary to popular belief in this thread I believe that Neji's Gentile fist is a hard counter to Suigestu (and I'm one of the few who actually likes him). He may be able to turn into water at will but he still has chakra points. If Neji hits those, bye-bye water transformation.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Sasuke gets blitzed and stomped by Lee what the hell is the claim of him beating Guy who even in 6th gate just might be faster and stronger than the raikage?
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Team Taka has my vote.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
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@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
Thats because Guy has been fighting for days before this encounter. The 4th Great Ninja War had a variety of continuous battles and no doubt Guy opened the Gates til that point.
First scan shows when Lee opened the Gates. He needed to open them one by one just to get to the 5th gate.
Second scan shows when Team Guy faced Kisame's clone at 30% of power, in order to reach the 6th inner gate he needed to open them all.
From what I think, Guy can only open up straight to the 7th Gate only if he has already been in the myths of battle and the duration of it so that his body can break and just exceed to open straight to the gate of Shock or if the OP states otherwise.
@reaverlation said:
@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
@reaverlation said:
@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
He basically did versus Madara. Guy stomps
@xmangog__beastx said:
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
Guy cant just open up straight to the 7th gate. He needs to open up the Gates one by one and I sure as hell doubt Sasuke is gonna let him do that.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because? In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto who in fact dodged the arrow himself ( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments) and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point. Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
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@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
@maiitoguy8 said:
@streak619: And you think Sasuke is going to hit Guy with the arrow because?
Because it's in-characte
In case you have forgotten, 7th gate Guy is much faster than Kabuto
Kabuto was kakashi level even before the hebi and sage mode amp. On what basis is Gai faster?
who in fact dodged the arrow himself
He never outright dodged it
( I know the Sage mode gave him senses enchantments)
Yes
and his susanoo isn't even perfect at this point.
Irrelevant
Im sure Guy can break it down with a few blows before he needs to resort to Afternoon Tiger.
Sasuke amatersus him, genjutsus him, oneshots him, impales him long before any of that happens.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped. Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
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@streak619: Forgot to tag you, see above.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@hittheassasin said:
7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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7th Gate Guy was going hand to hand with Juubi Madara and not getting instantly stomped.
Which proves nothing because Madara didn't even attempt to attack and just casually dodged his attacks.
Gaara, who previously saw Sage Mode Minato's teleportation+rasengan attack(which was blitzed and stomped by Madara), the Raikage's speed(enhanced by Ohnoki's justu) as well as KCM Naruto's speed, noted Guy's movements to be "inhuman".
Gaara never reacted to Minato or Naruto's combat speed, only Raikage's. Kakashi freaked out when he saw BM Naruto despite having seen 7th gate Gai's combat speed peobably many times before. BM Naruto is canonically faster than 7th gate Gai because he deflected the bijuu bombs with pure speed, we know 7th gqte gai could not have done this because Gai said he would have to open the 8th gate to deal with the bijuu bombs.
7th Gate Guy is faster than any non-god tier Naruto character.
BSM Naruto is the fastest non god tier person followed by rinnegan Madara who clowned BM Naruto in CQC.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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@streak619: It certainly does prove something, namely that Madara could do nothing but dodge, since he was acting extremely aggressively(in a combatative sense) towards everyone else attempting to attack him or thwart his plans(see Obito and Minato). This same Juubi Madara casually blitzed SM Minato before he could do anything and scales to above Juubito.
But Gaara saw all of these characters attack and use their speed and despite that, confirmed Guy's movements to be inhuman. And nothing proves Kakashi ever saw the full extent of 7th Gate Guy's speed, since the latter was canonically about even with
Kakashi in base and the 7th Gate is extremely straining to use. Besides, Kakashi can still be amazed that Naruto managed to reach incredible speed without necessarily comparing it to Guy's, no? There's no comparison here.
As for Guy being unable to deal with the Bijuu bombs, that can easily be attributed to his lack of knowledge of them. How is he supposed to know they can be deflected with sheer speed and that they wouldn't simply explode if such a thing was attempted? On top of that, Guy was already exhausted from constant use of the 6th Gate as well as combat, while Naruto was fresh from recieving an extra load of Kurama Chakra. Hardly a fair comparison.
I disagree. And if Madara clowned BM Naruto, he's handily superior to BSM as well, since the latter has no feats placing his speed or CQC abilities significantly above BM's.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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I think Team Guy, mostly because of Guy himself. Though I can be swayed. If Sasuke hits Guy with Amaterasu, then it's GG I think. Not very in character for Taka Sauce though as it seems Amaterasu is still very taxing on him at this point.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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BSM being faster than 7th gate is utterly fictitious. Sasuke is around 7th gate guy physically speed wise.
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