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CaV: Madara Uchiha (Darthjhawk) vs Iron Man (KrleAvenger) - Voting!








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#101
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KrleAvenger
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Bump for voters.



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#102
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Darthjhawk
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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deactivated-5bdcbb8da1d15
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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StormShadow_X
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
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Darthjhawk
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
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SuperGoku17
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T4V












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#107
Edited by
KrleAvenger
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
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Thenewguysnm1
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#110
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felgrim
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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Streak619
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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WollfMyth209
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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felgrim
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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Killerwasp
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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StrongerThanRin
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote












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#120
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 3 days ago
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Hey everyone just giving this a bump! We’d like to see your votes and feedback. Apologies if you’ve already voted and got another tag!












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#121
Edited by
ANTHP2000
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- 2 months, 3 days ago
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I'll try to read through



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#122
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- 2 months, 3 days ago
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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BrownZeus
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Soon.












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#124
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Awesomefacialhairbros
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- 2 months, 2 days ago
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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great_black_star
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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CaV: Madara Uchiha (Darthjhawk) vs Iron Man (KrleAvenger) - Voting!








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#101
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KrleAvenger
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- 3 months, 28 days ago
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Bump for voters.



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#102
Edited by
Darthjhawk
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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deactivated-5bdcbb8da1d15
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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StormShadow_X
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
Posted by

Darthjhawk
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
Posted by

SuperGoku17
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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T4V












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#107
Edited by
KrleAvenger
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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@valorknight@wollfmyth209@stormshadow_x@odin619360@amethystgravity@khael@jt_gh@noone1996@battle123axe@supremegeneration@higherpower@hittheassasin@thor_parker82@gohantheory@thewatcherking@deathhero61@brazenlake4946@blackpantherisb@echostarlord117@cosmic_lantern@marc_55@lordshepherd123@great_black_star@streak619@thenewguysnm1@brownzeus@_kingoflatveria@kevd4wg@empressofdread@blackspidey2099@shirso@anthp2000@awesomefacialhairbros@gearsecond659@supergoku17


Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
Edited by
Hope_w
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
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Thenewguysnm1
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#110
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felgrim
(1117 posts)
- 2 months, 24 days ago
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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Streak619
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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WollfMyth209
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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felgrim
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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HigherPower
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote












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#120
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 3 days ago
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Hey everyone just giving this a bump! We’d like to see your votes and feedback. Apologies if you’ve already voted and got another tag!












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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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Soon.












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#124
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Awesomefacialhairbros
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- 2 months, 2 days ago
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#102
Edited by
Darthjhawk
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
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Darthjhawk
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
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SuperGoku17
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T4V












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#107
Edited by
KrleAvenger
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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@valorknight@wollfmyth209@stormshadow_x@odin619360@amethystgravity@khael@jt_gh@noone1996@battle123axe@supremegeneration@higherpower@hittheassasin@thor_parker82@gohantheory@thewatcherking@deathhero61@brazenlake4946@blackpantherisb@echostarlord117@cosmic_lantern@marc_55@lordshepherd123@great_black_star@streak619@thenewguysnm1@brownzeus@_kingoflatveria@kevd4wg@empressofdread@blackspidey2099@shirso@anthp2000@awesomefacialhairbros@gearsecond659@supergoku17


Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
Edited by
Hope_w
(2310 posts)
- 2 months, 24 days ago
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
Posted by

Thenewguysnm1
(7420 posts)
- 2 months, 24 days ago
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#110
Edited by
felgrim
(1117 posts)
- 2 months, 24 days ago
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


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#120
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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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Soon.












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#124
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
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T4V












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#107
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#110
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felgrim
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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WollfMyth209
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote












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#120
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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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Soon.












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#124
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- 2 months, 2 days ago
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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- 1 month, 28 days ago
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
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SuperGoku17
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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T4V












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#107
Edited by
KrleAvenger
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#110
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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WollfMyth209
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote












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#120
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- 2 months, 3 days ago
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#121
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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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#124
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- 2 months, 2 days ago
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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- 1 month, 28 days ago
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
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T4V












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#107
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


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#110
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felgrim
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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StrongerThanRin
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- 2 months, 13 days ago
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


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#120
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 3 days ago
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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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Soon.












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#124
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Awesomefacialhairbros
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- 2 months, 2 days ago
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#102
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Darthjhawk
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Bumping for more voters/attention.












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#103
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Tag for votes and after every post












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#104
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StormShadow_X
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible












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#106
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SuperGoku17
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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T4V












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#107
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KrleAvenger
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#108
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Hope_w
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.












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#109
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Thenewguysnm1
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- 2 months, 24 days ago
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#110
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felgrim
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.












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#111
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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I absolutely will be voting on this.












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#112
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WollfMyth209
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.












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#113
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Darthjhawk
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.













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#114
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Darthjhawk
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- 2 months, 23 days ago
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!












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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.












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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.












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#117
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.












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#118
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T4V












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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote












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#120
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Hey everyone just giving this a bump! We’d like to see your votes and feedback. Apologies if you’ve already voted and got another tag!












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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.












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#123
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Soon.












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#124
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...












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#125
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.









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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#101
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Bump for voters.



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#101
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Bump for voters.





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#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.








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#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.








#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.







#102
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Bumping for more voters/attention.









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#103
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#103
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Tag for votes and after every post








#103
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Tag for votes and after every post







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Tag for votes and after every post









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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done



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#104
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@gearsecond659: i think it's already done





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#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible








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#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible








#105
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- 3 months, 20 days ago
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible







#105
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@stormshadow_x: We each have two more posts actually. We just want to get as many potential voters as possible









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#106
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T4V








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#106
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T4V








#106
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T4V







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T4V









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#107
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#107
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#107
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.



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#107
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Opened for Votes! - Madara Uchiha versus Iron Man


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Alright gentlemen, after a whole year of delay, this is finally opened up for votes. If some of you lost interest in reading or forgot about this completely, I can't blame you. This CaV was a bit messy. We had to delete and re-post our openers due to some changed we had to make, and afterwards, we postponed this CaV because we had other stuff to do and didn't want to rush it. But for those of you who are still interested in this, you know the drill. Read the whole think, try to be objective when you vote, vote for the user who you think made a better argument and proved why his character wins and try to ignore personal bias (if any). And try to prove you read the debate by providing reasons. You are allowed to tag more people if you want, as long as they are not trolls or alts.


This was originally suppose to be 4 rounds long + summary without scans and counters. Unfortunately, my opponent @darthjhawk conceded after my last post and didn't see the point in continuing the debate, which I find unfortunate and kinda disrespectful on my part given the match up I suggested, but, it is what it is. I was originally just gonna close the thread, but he wanted you to vote regardless or at least give some tips or share opinions yourselves. If you decide to vote tho, please say something a bit more detailed than just "I vote for..." or "he convinced me his character wins". We need some proof that you read the debate. Hopefully you will have fun reading this and we appreciate all the comments coming our way.





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#108
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.








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#108
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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.








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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.







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You want me to what now?


*runs into closet broswing suit selection before poking head back out in the midst of tying a fancy barber pole tie*


Your honor a short recess if you would, the jury needs more time to reach the verdict of what weve just witnessed, all closing statements will be up shortly.









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#109
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#109
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#109
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.



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#109
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I think this is the best cav i have ever read,shame about it taking so long and the ending


good job you guys.





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#110
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.








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#110
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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.








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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.







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@krleavenger: both were well argued and arranged. I so wish this had gone further.


I believe you had the slightly better debate structure but overall well spoken on both sides.









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#111
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I absolutely will be voting on this.








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#111
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I absolutely will be voting on this.








#111
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I absolutely will be voting on this.







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I absolutely will be voting on this.









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#112
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.








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#112
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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.








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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.







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While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.









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#113
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.









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#113
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.









#113
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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.








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Bump for votes/feedback/whatever you wanna call it lol.










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#114
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!








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#114
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!








#114
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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!







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@felgrim: @wollfmyth209: @thenewguysnm1:Thanks for taking the time to read guys!









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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.








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#115
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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.








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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.







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@darthjhawk: no problem. Thanks for the great debate. Enjoyed reading this.









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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.








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#116
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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.








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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.







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Honestly, this was one of the best debates I have read in a very long time. The amount of respect showcased from the debater's was only surpassed by the amount of knowledge they displayed. And I think knowledge was the deciding factor here.


I give my vote to @krleavenger (well, he won). Krle showcased an incredible amount of knowledge on both parties of the debate here, and I think DJH opting to not refute any of the feats Krle posted worked greatly against him. Mostly because Krle posted [a lot] of feats for Iron Man and thoroughly countered quite literally everything DJH posted. Many of Iron Man's feats I was not initially impressed with, but that final post from Krle erased any doubts in my mind that Tony had the versatility and power to compete with Madara on all fronts. I had minor issues with some of Darth's arguments as well, for example, I feel like him calling Tsunade's kick multi-town/city block level was unwarranted and not shown by what we saw in the scan. She caused a large crater and brought down the wall/building things, but Tony had much better feats of physicality then that, which again goes back to DJH not refuting any feats.


Krle knowing more about Naruto also greatly helped him when refuting other arguments, such as Madara's durability vs Tony's power. Every time he would counter a feat posted, DJH would rebut that by posting more that would get countered again. DJH held his ground on some things though, like the topic concerning speed. Krle saying FTG wasn't teleportation was wrong and I was never convinced that Tony would be capable of outright blitzing him.









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#117
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.








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#117
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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.








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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.







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@wollfmyth209 said:



While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.



I'd have to agree with wollf here. I read both sides and it took some time, quite a bit of time, but I felt krleavener edged it out with his display of knowledge on Iron man. I still think this was a great debate and wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if I lost in this match. It was well done for both sides.




While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.





While I personally believe Madara can beat Iron Man, @krleavenger gets my vote. His points are more concise, more to the point, better constructed and I feel he highlighted Tony's advantages too well.


Nice debate, guys.










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#118
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T4V








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#118
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T4V








#118
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T4V







#118
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T4V









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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote








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#119
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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote








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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote







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@strongerthanrin said:

T4V



The debate is over tho


You are free to vote





@strongerthanrin said:

T4V





@strongerthanrin said:


T4V









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#120
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Hey everyone just giving this a bump! We’d like to see your votes and feedback. Apologies if you’ve already voted and got another tag!








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#120
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Hey everyone just giving this a bump! We’d like to see your votes and feedback. Apologies if you’ve already voted and got another tag!







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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#121
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I'll try to read through



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#121
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I'll try to read through





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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.








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#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.








#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.







#122
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Damn that was a good read. Much as I would like to give it to one or the other, I gotta say draw. This was just, damn. Lol.









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#123
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Soon.








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#123
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Soon.








#123
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Soon.







#123
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Soon.









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#124
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...








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#124
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...








#124
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...







#124
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This was just soo good. From both sides. But at the end of the day, i gotta say that @krleavenger did a better job at pointing out Tony's advantages and Feats. My vote for you. Cheers . Have a good one...









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#125
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.








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#125
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.








#125
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great_black_star
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.







#125
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great_black_star
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Personally I think Madara will stomp Iron Man after reading this CAV. But Darthjhawk's debating without refuting any of his opponents claim makes his argument realy weak. My vote goes to @krleavenger.








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