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Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers?




























Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers?













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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.












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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.












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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers?













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Posted by Inside
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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.












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#2
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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.












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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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@buildhare said:

Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.












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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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No not even close










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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.












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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.












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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.












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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?













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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.












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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.












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The soldiers stomps.












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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.












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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.












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They die. Too many.



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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.












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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.












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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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In an open field they stand no chance












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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.












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@buildhare said:

Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.














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No way man.












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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.












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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.












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Posted by Inside
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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?









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Posted by Inside
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15 days, 9 hours ago




Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?










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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?









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Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%




Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?






Poll: Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, take down 100 soldiers? (27 votes)


Yes. 11%



No. 26%



Wtf? No, hell no. 63%





Yes. 11%







No. 26%







Wtf? No, hell no. 63%







Let's say they're on an open field, fully armored with their best plate, let's say Selmy and Jaime both have Valerian Steel swords, Arthur Dayne has Dawn.


Could Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister, and Barristan Selmy, all in their prime, together, with their best equipment, take down 100 average soldiers?










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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.








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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.








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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.







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Arrows aren't permitted in this match-up btw, just close-up combat.









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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.



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Do you see any one of them taking down 33 people simultaneously? I sure don't.





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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.








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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.








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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.







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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.









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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.








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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.








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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.







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@the_red_viper: Well, Jaime Lannister, while being completely overwhelmed by men on his own, all of which tried to dogpile on him, took out 10 men before they were able to capture him.


Barristan Selmy even in his old age was apparently still a match for Jaime with how he talks about him, and Arthur Dayne with dawn is even better.


Congrats on becoming a moderator btw, or maybe you already were during the Altair debate and I hadn't noticed.


Plus take into account the battle beyond the wall against the wights, and all of these men are much more skilled then any of those men. Now granted there were a lot more, but Wights are way more durable then any human, and they killed, what, at least 30 altogether? I reckon these 3 men could take down that team pretty quickly.













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The soldiers stomps.








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The soldiers stomps.








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The soldiers stomps.







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The soldiers stomps.









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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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@inside: Jaime killed 10 people before getting overwhelmed, that should tell you everything. If he killed 10, Dayne and Barristan would kill maybe 15 each... tops... on their best day. In this given scenario, in an open field, I can see them narrowing it down to maybe 80 people before getting overwhelmed. They get surrounded in seconds and from there sheer numbers do their work. I think that the wights are an unfair comparison because they're just mindless zombies who didn't even get on the small rock where Jon's party was from all sides but only one side, which created sort of a bottleneck, and I don't even think they killed 100 wights altogether. Even if they did, they were almost 10 people up there.


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Lord no.








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Lord no.








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Lord no.







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Lord no.









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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.








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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.








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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.







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@the_red_viper: Yeah come to think of it the soldiers will overwhelm them quickly.









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They die. Too many.



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They die. Too many.



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They die. Too many.



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They die. Too many.





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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.








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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.








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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.







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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.









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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



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No, ASoIAF is for the more part grounded in reality, nobody is overtly superhuman.




@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Not sure what you mean by this.





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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.





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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.





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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.



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@kilius said:

No. Heck 15 is probably to much.



Definitely not. Dayne handled a high-tier swordsman + 3 men-at-arms (>>>>> regular soldier) simultaneously without breaking a sweat and it took a dozen men to drop an unarmoured, shieldless Barristan at the age of 65, he killed 11 of them. Jaime could casually fodderise men who could in turn easily kill 3 Lannister soldiers without much issue.




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No. Heck 15 is probably to much.




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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.








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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.








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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.







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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.









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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.



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@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.




Yeah, that stuff is from the show. There are also feats in the books that are very easy to miss, because GRRM generally follows weaker characters (Tyrion, Arya) so you don't get to see what high-tier warriors are capable of that much, and often people miss the action and it's easy to miss impressive feats on a first read. There are only a handful of times when the abilities of higher tier warriors are clearly put on display.





@kilius said:


@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.






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@rogueshadow:


Did that happen in the show? I've only read the books. I don't mind spoilers.






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In an open field they stand no chance








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In an open field they stand no chance








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In an open field they stand no chance







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In an open field they stand no chance









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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.








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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.








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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.







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They can defintely kill 30. 10 each should be more than possible. 40 would be hard, but still possible. 1-2 might die during the bloodbath.


I’d say they definitely go down at 50. Like 99/100 times. 100 soldiers is an absurd number even for 3 high tier combatants. You should add like 7 other talented soldiers to make this fair. 10 vs 100.









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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.










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@buildhare said:

Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.










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@buildhare said:

Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.









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@buildhare said:

Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.







@buildhare said:

Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.





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Depends entirely on location. 100 people on an open field just swarm them from all sides. Give them a choke point and it probably wouldn't even be hard.









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No way man.








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No way man.








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No way man.







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No way man.









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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.








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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.








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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.







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They get horrendously butchered. They are not super humans.









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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.








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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.








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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.







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Also depends on the skill of the 100 soldiers and their weaponry. Contrary to popular belief, quality vs. quantity usually ends very badly for the former.









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No not even close








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No not even close







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