Who would win between these 2?

Hela has access to her weapons and Jean grey can go into Dark Phoenix mode if she is out powered.

Morals off

Battle takes place in Asgard

Win by death only

Who wins and why?

MCU Jean Grey doesn't exist.

Jean can disintegrate all projectiles and mind screw Hela at the same time. Eventually she'll vaporize Hela.

jean is too powerful but hela is also too durable might be a stalemate

If she turns into DP Hela is dead

@gamer-guy: until (if) she reappears, Hela was destroyed by fire. Jean agitates molecules until there is nothing, without a heat signature. I don't feel I should explain how fire is created. Hela had blunt force durability. She can be stabbed, she just heals too quick for it to be a problem. Jean can counter regeneration with rapid molecular deconstruction.

@lordofallhumans: no hela was destroyed because asgard was destroyed... Meaning hela heals from what ever jean grey can dish out and eventually stabs her worse than logan did.

if by "fire" you mean a 1000 feet tall sword that destroyed all of asgard then yeah

@doctordamn: ...and Asgard was destroyed by an explosion caused by fire. Her projectiles will never get to Jean. Jean can excite molecules and disintegrate matter without fire being a byproduct. Jean can counter regeneration with rapid molecular deconstruction. Hela also has no counter for telepathy.

Jean turns her into sub atomic particles. Heal from that.

@lordofallhumans: So jean can city/ country bust now??? Please show me the proof. Otherwise jean can't kill hela because she has no counter for hela's regen which is tied to asgard meaning she eventually gets impaled...

@doctordamn: she doesn't need to. Hela was stomped before the destruction of Asgard. Hela's strength was tied to Asgard, just like Thors was. Her durability was blunt force based or no sword would have pierced her, proving she's not indestructible even on Asgard. You prove she can survive her atoms being scattered, because that's the kind of durability she needs to survive an unleashed Jean encounter.

@lordofallhumans: Thor proved it when he told loki to release surtr who he knew would destroy asgard. Do you think he would willingly destroy his home otherwise?

@doctordamn: he didn't prove she could survive telekinetic deconstruction. He proved he couldn't beat her with his own powers. We saw her taken out before the destruction of Asgard.

@lordofallhumans: no we saw her taken out as the fire demon thrust his sword into asgard's core destroying it... Hela draws her power from asgard and the movie clearly points to the destruction of asgard as the only way to permanently put her down. And that can't be done by jean.

@doctordamn: then that means she should have been powerless on Earth Right? But that was not the case. She simply was stronger on Asgard than anywhere else. She can be cut, so she cannot just soak damage because she's on Asgard, she heals. Jean can overpower regeneration. Hela has 0 telepathy resistance and zero disintegration resistance feats. Destroying Asgard was overkill and was set up for Infinity War, considering the space gem was there and she could have just been Bfred. Destroying Asgard should have only made her less strong considering Thor also draws power from it and was unaffected by it's destruction. No poorly explained convoluted plot is going to save her from disintegration unless you have proof that by virtue of being on Asgard she can survive something that was never tried on her. I guess if Asgard was still around that would have protected her from the snap too, right? Since her powers and durability are "limitless". Stupid plots that fold in on themselves are not allowed in battle forums.

@lordofallhumans: no she was weaker on earth she wouldnt have been without asgard. And when was it said that Thor also draws his power from asgard?

Also, never said her durability was limitless. In fact, she wasn't just stabbed, but completely ran through with a sword meaning her durability was compromised. However, she wasn't hurt in the slightest and didn't even bleed, just annoyed her if anything.

Don't get mad at me because you have problems with the plot. I didn't make the movie just drawing conclusions from what the plot obviously conveyed...

@doctordamn: it was said when Odin told him, as he explained where she got her power from. I'm done with this considering you fancy yourself schooling me on the movie as far as accuracy and didn't know that basic fact. Jean can win.

@lordofallhumans: so why didn't Thor get stronger or heal up on asgard as hela did? Not saying your wrong but if that's the case then that's a complete contradiction in the plot, unlike my stance on hela, which is completely supported by the plot. (Which just means that the movie had problems, dbs had plenty for example) And why are you so hostile man, just a comic book forum. I haven't offended you have I?

@doctordamn: edited because I was being a dick. That's exactly why the Hela plot was stupid. Thor was told where his power came from too and is actually stronger than he was before the destruction of Asgard. I will always confidently say taking out Hela wouldn't take the destruction of Asgard simply due to nothing negative happening to Thor and Odin basically telling him that Asgard was not the land, but the people contradicting what he said about both because both Asgard the place and Asgard the people were wiped out and Thor is stronger than ever.

Jean wins with Phoenix.

@lordofallhumans: Quit putting words in my mouth never said she was omnipotent.

You seem rustled sir, your being rude when I haven't been with you...

@doctordamn: see edit above

Whether Hela can survive molecular deconstruction or not (and I personally don’t think she could), Hela has nothing to use against Jean. Jean has shielded against a flank from Scott’s optic blast, blocked an oncoming tidal wave while multitasking the X-jet, and caught a group of machine gun ammo point-blank. (Granted the ammo was composed of tiny syringes holding the cure)

Also, is Jean composite or strictly first trilogy?

@pyrofn: I would say composite Jean

Lol what. This battle starts with Jean in normal form not Phoenix form. Hela just stabs her and she dies without giving her a chance to go Dark Phoenix.

Who would she play around?

Hela wins.

@richubs: Jean has caught projectiles before. Why would Helas swords be any different against a telekinetic who instantly could block a flanking optic blast full-force, an oncoming tidal wave while focusing on repairing and controlling the X-Jet, caught the soldiers machine gun-like ammo, and Archangel metallic feathers with loose objects strewn about.

@pyrofn: I don't think Hela's swords will be anywhere close to being easy to catch. Asguardian soldiers couldn't dodge them.

Plus if she throws a Surtur sized sword at Jean she doesn't stand a chance.

Her Telekinesis isn't very impressive anyways. It's good only in certain scenes.

@richubs: 1) Considering Jean only needs to think for her powers to work, dodging should be of no issue. Jean isn’t like Wanda who needs to cast her telekinesis.

2) Debatable on the Surtur sword. Jeans held back a tidal wave pounding on her shields continuously and not only blocked Scott’s Optic Blast full force, but sent it back at him. The energy wave was powerful enough to shake an entire underground compound and destroy the integrity of a dam, which should all amount as larger than those giant swords. (or spears?????)

Count in Dark Phoenix, who arises without warning or effort, Jean is more powerful than Magneto who lifted a bridge the size of those swords and was taking apart an island larger and everything on it, all while creating a wall of waters much taller than those spears.

https://youtu.be/O7F-5zAkKRg

3) Your opinion. I can’t say you’re wrong if you don’t find the scenes impressive. I can only tell you what was on-screen.