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Round 1)MCU Cap,Bucky and T'Challa
Round 2)MCU Iron Man and War machine(Pre IW)
Round 3) MCU Spiderman,TASM and Raimi Spiderman(No webbing)
Round 4)DCEU Aquaman
Round 5)DCEU Cyborg
Round 6)MCU Hulk
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
Anyway, stops at 2
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
- Iron Man and War Machine below the spidermen, aquaman, and cyborg
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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Round 1)MCU Cap,Bucky and T'Challa
Round 2)MCU Iron Man and War machine(Pre IW)
Round 3) MCU Spiderman,TASM and Raimi Spiderman(No webbing)
Round 4)DCEU Aquaman
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
Anyway, stops at 2
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
- Iron Man and War Machine below the spidermen, aquaman, and cyborg
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
Conclusion: Stops at 3 or stops at 6.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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No flight of phazing
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Round 1)MCU Cap,Bucky and T'Challa
Round 2)MCU Iron Man and War machine(Pre IW)
Round 3) MCU Spiderman,TASM and Raimi Spiderman(No webbing)
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
Anyway, stops at 2
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
- Iron Man and War Machine below the spidermen, aquaman, and cyborg
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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Round 1)MCU Cap,Bucky and T'Challa
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
- Iron Man and War Machine below the spidermen, aquaman, and cyborg
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
Conclusion: Stops at 3 or stops at 6.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
Anyway, stops at 2
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
- Iron Man and War Machine below the spidermen, aquaman, and cyborg
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
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Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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No flight of phazing
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Round 1)MCU Cap,Bucky and T'Challa
Round 2)MCU Iron Man and War machine(Pre IW)
Round 3) MCU Spiderman,TASM and Raimi Spiderman(No webbing)
Round 4)DCEU Aquaman
Round 5)DCEU Cyborg
Round 6)MCU Hulk
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Round 3) MCU Spiderman,TASM and Raimi Spiderman(No webbing)
Round 4)DCEU Aquaman
Round 5)DCEU Cyborg
Round 6)MCU Hulk
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No flight of phazing
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Round 3) MCU Spiderman,TASM and Raimi Spiderman(No webbing)
Round 4)DCEU Aquaman
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
Anyway, stops at 2
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
Anyway, stops at 2
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Not sure why cyborg is above Arthur...
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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I'm going to assume 2 is below 3 because pre-IW means Civil War, otherwise out of order (which it already is due to Cyborg being above Arthur) and idk where he stops but he ain't making it far.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
- Cyborg above Aquaman?
- Iron Man and War Machine below the spidermen, aquaman, and cyborg
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- Aquaman above all of the live action spiderman?
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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I think he stops at 1, Cap's shield, and Panther's claw can both damage him(Maybe Bucky's arm too but it has no feats).
We saw how skilled meta level street level hero with weapon capable of hurting him can outmaneuver him.
While I put Corvius and Promixia about all these fighters individually, they makes up the fight with numbers.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
Conclusion: Stops at 3 or stops at 6.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
Conclusion: Stops at 3 or stops at 6.
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This order doesn't feel right but here goes...
Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
Conclusion: Stops at 3 or stops at 6.
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Clears Round 1 with T'Challa the most difficult probably because of his durability in the Black Panther suit. Cap went down to Corvus Glaive and Bucky and Cap are similar and they and T'Challa all appear to be about the same speed thinking about that road chase scene in Bucharest.
Now for Round 2, Pre-IW, going to assume that means Civil War. Around that time Rhodey was in the War Machine Mark III and Tony was in the Iron Man Mark 46 (unless you want the nigh featless Iron Man Mark 47 from Spider-Man Homecoming). The War Machine Mark III is actually the same suit used in Age of Ultron and it was newer than the suit used in Iron Man 3 (War Machine Mark II aka Iron Patriot) so it can likely be scaled off of the Iron Man Mark 43 suit that Tony uses for the first half or so of Age of Ultron. Why not the Iron Man Mark 45 that Tony uses for the rest of the movie (ignoring the Iron Man Mark 44 Hulkbuster suit)? That suit was made during the movie whereas Rhodey's suit was built at some point before the movie like the Iron Man Mark 43. So Iron Man Mark 43 similarish to War Machine Mark III as far as capabilities. The Iron Man Mark 46 suit (what I'm assuming Tony starts in) didn't have good feats against Captain America and Bucky. While arguments can be made in multiple directions, he just seemed to come up too short on the durability end. On that note, this round actually comes down to Vision VS War Machine and not Vision VS Iron Man. Neither of them have the best striking feats but I think what we saw from damaged Vision in Infinity War he was still striking Corvus into walls and breaking said walls. The only notable striking feats for Rhodey are he and Tony punching each other during Iron Man 2 and that was in the Iron Man Mark II (yes I know it becomes the War Machine Mark I) and if we can't translate the feats from earlier suits to the Iron Man Mark 46 I don't feel comfortable translating the feats from earlier suits to the War Machine Mark III and especially do not feel comfortable trying to speculate what Rhodey's actual current striking level is. I'll give this one to Vision but I'm not comfortable about it.
Round 3, my it took awhile to reach you. Anyway, MCU Spider-Man goes down first. He's got three or four cool lifting feats and he was able to stop Bucky in a fight and twist Bucky's metal arm just like Steve has. Not much else for him. The other Spider-Men are better but.. hmm.. I'm not sure really. Which one was the one that took a grenade head on? I think he could actually lose here but my lack of knowledge is a failure on my part so I can't predict an outcome.
Round 4, what? This is what leaves me a bit confused. I'm not sure why DCEU Aquaman is so high on this list. I can't remember any speed feats from him, and while people have tried to scale the two I can't remember any striking or lifting feats that make he and Wonder Woman comparable. If feats for him can be proven to be on Wonder Woman's level of striking, lifting, and durability or at least close to it in at least 2 of those 3 categories, he'd win though. For now, I'll say Vision clears because everything I remember about Aquaman was not good and his trident barely did anything either.
Round 5, another what moment was occurring to me at first but then I see where this idea might have came in mind to you. You think Cyborg could hack Vision right? Well, Vision both is and isn't tech to be honest. His body is some kind of living vibranium alloy or something from Age of Ultron but it's all powered by the Mind Stone. Unless Cyborg can hack the Mind Stone he's in a similar situation to Aquaman with the whole lacking speed, striking, and durability. I guess you can sort of count he and Superman tearing apart the active Motherbox as a lifting(?) strength feat but there is no telling how much force that actually took. Vision clears for similar reasons to Round 4 basically.
Round 6, Vision dies. Vision was contending with Vibranium Ultron as good as Age of Ultron Thor was (decent but not enough to solo) and that was with all of his powers and flight allowed. Hulk tossed Vibranium Ultron like nothing.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Aquaman is above Corvus Glaive. Vision stops at 4.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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Obviously the order sucks but Vision stops at 6, up until then no one gives him any resistance. Matching Thor level characters against Aquaman and Cyborg is dumb.
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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This dude stops at one, seriously. He was completely usless in Avengers... losing to guys that had problems with Cap...
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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@ad-arts: You ever thought that it's because he was being cut open and was stabbed IIRC? And Captain America had a massive revelation about the world and seemed much much more skillful in this movie than he did in civil war. That said you took a cap who may or may not be more capable than civil war cap, and then you take vision who was weakened to garbage tier.
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