I don't watch AOS but from what I've heard from people who actually watch the show she's roughly on Widow's level. If this is true then the team win. Mick is nothing but a low level thug and Diggle is only comparable to either one so it'll quickly turn in their favour. Mick goes down with mid diff and then the two take out Diggle together.

I don't watch AOS but from what I've heard from people who actually watch the show she's roughly on Widow's level. If this is true then the team win. Mick is nothing but a low level thug and Diggle is only comparable to either one so it'll quickly turn in their favour. Mick goes down with mid diff and then the two take out Diggle together.

@riddlerfan77: Mick beat Sara...

Low showing for Sara not a high one for Mick. Anarky beat Ollie multiple times and soloed team Arrow but lost to Thea twice. One showing doesn't mean jack.

That's a gross underestimation...

It's really not. Mick is good but at the end of the day, unskilled and would lose to any of these guys.

@riddlerfan77: You realize Mick was Chronos, right?

@riddlerfan77:

Yes and both before and after Chronos he continued to have no impressive feats. Anarky of all people who was a team buster lost to Thea one on one yet would anybody honestly say that Thea is better than Anarky. Of course not. Jobbing happens frequently in CW and shouldn't be considered feats.

Except he does. He beat Savage and has fodderized highly skilled fodders consistently.

Savage, the guy that gets wanked for holding off Ollie for about ten seconds when non of his other feats are on that level. Savage is trash tier, fodderising him means nothing. Remind me about the fodder guys, you could be right, my memory of Legends is a little hazy to be honest.

Him beating Sara was a low showing for her and shouldn't be taken seriously at all. Sara was roughly equal to season 2 Ollie and are we really going to say that Mick can beat season 2 Ollie.

No he can't beat S2 Ollie. But that has to do with the fact that he can't bully Oliver physically like he was bullying Sara. Skill is not everything. Mick had significant stats advantage over Sara and he exploited it extremely well. And Sara has better stats than either Bobbi or Nat. If he can overpower and beat down Sara, he can most certainly do same to someone like Nat.

It's still a low showing for Sara however you look at it. She could fodderise season 2 Diggle whilst fighting Ollie at the same time and Diggle has a stat edge over her that's comparable to Mick's edge on her except Diggle was actually skilled.

@riddlerfan77:

Savage, the guy that gets wanked for holding off Ollie for about ten seconds when non of his other feats are on that level. Savage is trash tier, fodderising him means nothing. Remind me about the fodder guys, you could be right, my memory of Legends is a little hazy to be honest.

Or maybe for the fact that he took down half the Legends including Atom and Cold, is a bullet timer, can throw knives as fast as Barry runs, beat and killed Carter, someone Oliver had trouble with..

He also lost to both Mick and Sara as well as routinely having trouble with Kendra.

It's still a low showing for Sara however you look at it. She could fodderise season 2 Diggle whilst fighting Ollie at the same time and Diggle has a stat edge over her that's comparable to Mick's edge on her except Diggle was actually skilled.

It's not. And it never happened.

Arrow 2X14. It was a training session but my point still stands.

@riddlerfan77: Well if your only arguments about Mick beating Sara and Savage is PIS, then I don't know what to say. Its quite clear what they were portraying in Sara vs Mick fight.

And Nat is Sara's inferior in just about every way.

@riddlerfan77:

Regardless of whether it's P.I.S or not Sara didn't even lose to Mick. See my above comment.

He clearly had the upper hand.

Holding the upper hand against someone doesn't mean he could beat them.

And Savage was absolutely P.I.S someone of his feats shouldn't have lost to Sara or Mick and definitely shouldn't have even been challenged by Kendra.

Getting challenged by a winged demigoddess who was trained by Sara and had 206 lifetimes experience is a low showing now?

1.Those 200 lifetimes don't affect her ability to fight.

2.Wings are useless.

3.She was trained by Sara for a short amount of time and held her own against Savage prior to that.

@riddlerfan77:

Holding the upper hand against someone doesn't mean he could beat them.

Then what does?

Actually beating them lol.

1.Those 200 lifetimes don't affect her ability to fight.

2.Wings are useless.

3.She was trained by Sara for a short amount of time and held her own against Savage prior to that.

Wings are useless..

Yes they are.

Let's see. Savage stomped her after killing Carter and she had to be saved by Firestorm. Savage once again stomped her up close and she had to be saved by Ray and she outright admitted that it was stupid of her to assume that she could take on Savage alone. Or are we forgetting 205 times he killed her and Carter?

I thought she held her own against Savage in a couple of those fights. Forgive me I must be really annoying with my lack of knowledge but in my defence I haven't watched Legends season 1 since it first released.

Then Sara started training her and she became skilled to the point she was landing hits on Sara and was even impressing her during their regular sparring sessions.

Pretty sure she stomped Kendra every time but I could be wrong, like I said I hardly remember Legends season 1.

You're reaching far. So far, your entire argument is that Mick beating Sara does not count for some reason even though we've nothing contradicting that feat and that Mick beating Savage doesn't count either because..reasons.

Yes we do have something contradicting that feat. The fact that Mick is a thug with no training. Physicals don't change the fact that he shouldn't be able to fight at all.

You yourself basically gave a long list of feats that contradict Savage losing to Mick and Sara.

Or maybe for the fact that he took down half the Legends including Atom and Cold, is a bullet timer, can throw knives as fast as Barry runs, beat and killed Carter, someone Oliver had trouble with..

Add flooring Ollie in seconds to that list. These feats directly contradict even the idea of Sara and Mick beating Savage.