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- A fodder Asgardian faces Mirakuru Slade Wilson
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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probably Slade
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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probably Slade
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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#31
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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#1
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- A fodder Asgardian faces Mirakuru Slade Wilson
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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@bladeoffury:
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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#12
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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probably Slade
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Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@xzone said:
@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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#26
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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#27
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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#28
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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#29
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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#30
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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#31
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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#6
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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#9
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@bladeoffury:
@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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#10
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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@bladeoffury said:
@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@xzone said:
@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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#27
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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- A fodder Asgardian faces Mirakuru Slade Wilson
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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@bladeoffury:
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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probably Slade
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
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That's not a fodder Asgardian.
Also this. That's Thor's granddaddy, IIRC.
That's not a fodder Asgardian.
That's not a fodder Asgardian.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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A fodder Asgardian did this.
Slade could bend a knife too but it would at least penetrate his skin. Don't think Slade would be able to hurt him, and even if we scale a fodder Asgardian's strength down to half of the Elite Asgardians like Sif and Lorelei, Slade still wouldn't be stronger.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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A fodder Asgardian would beat Slade, at least if we're talking unarmed combat. He cannot put him down.
Elite Asgardians like Sif, Valk or Loki do not properly translate to nameless warriors tho, at all, consider they were all fodderising them.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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Asgardians beating Frost Giants are good feats too, considering some of them could move Thor with their hits and overpower some elite Asgardians like Sif.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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@bladeoffury:
@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
I'm referring to the unnamed ones, but it is up to you to decide where Sif's and Valk's feats can be attributed to them.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Huh, I didn't even realize Bor was shown in the films.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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Slade handily. Fodder Asgardians are heavily overrated.
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@rbt said:
What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
Sif was one shotting Asgardian guards in Thor the Dark World IIRC.
Valkyrie was part of Asgard's elite group of warriors. And probably above average for them considering she was able to fight Hela to some extent whereas Hela was stomping whole armies of fodder Asgardians and the Valkyrie. IIRC in an interview Tessa Thompson also stated the Valkyrie's power rivals Thor.
I don't think you should use either for regular Asgardians. Only ones that should be used are for the professor from SHIELD. And his best feats are bending a knife, pulling off a jail cell door and IIRC he overturned a car(not sure about that one). Slade should be at worst comparable to him in pure strength and superior to him in everything else.
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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What counts as a feat for Asgardian? Sif's? Valk's? Or just un-named ones?
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Here you go.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
Here you go.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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@rbt: @bleidd: I know, that's Bor, but I couldn't find a good pic of a fodder one.
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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Some fodder asgardians brought down the first Kurse
they were pretty skilled as well
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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@bleidd: Thanks!
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probably Slade
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probably Slade
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probably Slade
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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@_kingoflatveria:
Those were the feats I was looking for.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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I don't see them putting down Slade in anyway.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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Slade
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Slade
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Deathstroke stomps. Honestly he could probably beat Sif.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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Fodder Asgardian wins eventually.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
I think you might be misunderstanding what I was saying. What I was saying is that you cannot scale regular Asgardians off of Asgardians that fodderize them. I didn't say that being fodderized by those Asgardians is a bad showing. I'm saying that you cannot scale them to those Asgardians. And that is what many people do. That's why they're overrated. Because people use incorrect scaling to try and rate them off of feats more impressive than their own.
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@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
@amcu: You must be joking. Sure, asgardian fodder was getting Rekked by sif and others, but that's cause they are the best in the realm. That's like saying because Aragon beats the crap out of fodder men that men are over rated.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
That's the exact scaling I was talking about. Perhaps I'm simply remembering incorrectly but if I'm not than Sif literally one shotted Asgardian guards with ease. And she is clearly portrayed as an elite Asgardian. Which is why I said that they cannot be scaled to her.
@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
@xzone said:
@amcu: Saying that slade Stomps because asgardian soldiers are overrated is incorrect. They may be overrated, but that doesn't matter here. Sif has the same strength and durability as regular asgardians, so pushing a rv with ease and tanking gunfire are completely legit for these guys. Sure, slade probably outskills them, but he simply doesn't have the physical strength to deal with these guys
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@bladeoffury: Yeah... Im fully confident deathstroke dies, better do ya research next time
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@lord_titan_: Others aren’t as confident as you. This is a close fight imo
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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@xzone said:
@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
I don't agree. We know that Sif is an elite Asgardian, we know she can one shot regular Asgardians and we know that she has better feats than regular Asgardians. I don't see sufficient reasoning to scale them.
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@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
@xzone said:
@amcu: Not in Skill, but in strength and durability they are clearly the same
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