Team Beta Ray Bill

• Beta Ray Bill


• Silver Surfer


• Quasar


• Ronan the Accuser


• Jane Foster Thor


• Nova Prime (Richard Rider)


• Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Team Wonder Woman

• Wonder Woman


• Black Adam


• Hal Jordan


• Donna Troy


• Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)


• Superman


• Starfire

Battle conditions:

• 616 Marvel


• Pre/New 52 DC


• Standard equipment


• Victory by K.O., Incapacitation or Death


• No BFR


• Fight takes place on an indestructible planet

R1: 1v1 Battles ,all combatants in character

• Beta Ray Bill vs Wonder Woman


• Silver Surfer vs Black Adam


• Quasar vs Green Lantern(Hal Jordan)


• Ronan the Accuser vs Donna Troy


• Jane Foster Thor vs Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)


• Nova Prime vs Superman


• Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Starfire

R2: All-Out fight between the Teams, no morals

Callouts (Sorry if not interested)

BRB

SS

Green Lantern

Ronan

Cap Marvel

Superman

Captain Marvel

@rac95: please change Jane imposthor to Thor.

OT: BRB

SS

Quasar

Ronan

Captain Marvel until you please change it to Thor odinson

Could go either way IMO

Could go either way again

Round two: BRB team

Team DC wins all rounds because Jane Thor sucks.

R1:could go either way imo

Surfer

Hal has more feats

Donna

Billy

Supes

Carol

R2:so many scenarios, surfer must focus on supes and team 2 must focus on surfer, quasar and BRB. If they are able to do so they win quasar has the shields to protect team 1 and so does hal. Roman can't fly and is a big liability to this team but his universal weapon could be helpful

Is Carol binary?? If so she could maybe help the surfer with the task of draining supes.

Team 1 wins the first 3 and the last matchups, and wins the team matchup. Team 1 wins the team matchup pretty easily as well. Surfer and quasar are better than anyone in team dc, and brb is better than anyone besides maybe supes.

Marvel Team with Surfer as MVP

Round 1

• 
  Beta Ray Bill vs Wonder Woman - Superior in nearly every way. Similar speeds, much harder striking, add in bullrushes and and superior durability and the only way Wonder Woman can win is basically through Decap.


• 
  Silver Surfer vs Black Adam - Just overall Superior


• 
  Quasar vs Green Lantern(Hal Jordan) - Quasar is a master drainer and energy manipulater, putting him against energy heavy people is well, generally not fair.


• 
  Ronan the Accuser vs Donna Troy - This one is much closer, but Ronan's hax and OP energy gives him a win


• Jane Foster Thor vs Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) - Just overall Superior


• Nova Prime vs Superman - Just overall superior


• Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Starfire - No idea, though I'm kinda guessing Starfire

Round 2

Marvel team. The most powerful person on the DC team is Hal, while Marvel team has Surfer and Quasar.

I don't do Surfer battles anymore. He's too OP slash I just don't have the knowledge.

@Pokeysteve: its post-crisis tho. They can probably take majority due to weak links like carol and ronan who get one shotted by almost anyone in the dc team.

@rac95: swap Donna for Maxima to make it more fair because right now SS/Quasar/Bill can trio with not much difficulty.

Team marvel

• Beta Ray Bill vs Wonder Woman


• 
  Silver Surfer vs Black Adam


• Quasar vs Green Lantern(Hal Jordan)


• 
  Ronan the Accuser vs Donna Troy


• 
  Jane Foster Thor vs Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)


• Nova Prime vs Superman
  


• 
  Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Starfire
  
  Round 1: Could go either way with BRB and WW, same with Quasar and Hal.
  Round 2: Surfer wrecks.

@the_living_tribunal_24:

How does anyone from the DC team beat him? Only debatable opponent did him I've seen on here is Cap Atom.

@Pokeysteve: im not saying they would beat him 1v1 but if they pile him they could maybe win unless he uses matter manipulation or starts opening blackholes.

* = win/^ = draw

•••

Beta Ray Bill* vs Wonder Woman

Silver Surfer* vs Black Adam

Quasar vs Hal Jordan*

Ronan the Accuser^ vs Donna Troy^

Jane Foster vs Captain Marvel*

Nova Prime^ vs Superman^

Captain Marvel vs Starfire*

•••

Beta Ray Bill* vs Hal Jordan

Silver Surfer vs Captain Marvel and Starfire*

•••

Beta Ray Bill vs Captain Marvel and Starfire*

BRB and his friends should take this, mainly due to Superman getting taken out by Norrin.

@the_living_tribunal_24:

Exactly. You just stated a way he could beat them all. He doesn't belong here.

@Pokeysteve: @the_living_tribunal_24:Surfer is not soloing the DC team. He doesn't abuse most of his hax in combat

@kevd4wg: thats what im saying

Rofl, Starfire and Billy beating SS

• 
  Beta Ray Bill vs Wonder Woman


• 
  Silver Surfer vs Black Adam


• 
  Quasar vs Green Lantern(Hal Jordan)


• 
  Ronan the Accuser vs Donna Troy


• Jane Foster Thor vs Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)
  


• Nova Prime vs Superman - could go either way


• Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Starfire
  

R2. Team Marvel for the majority

R!:

Wonder Woman (hardly)

Silver Surfer

Quasar vs Green Lantern(Hal Jordan) -> it could go to either way

Ronan the Accuser vs Donna Troy -> it could go to either way but more close to Ronan

Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)

Superman

Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Starfire -> Could go to either due to different versions but Carol looks like the favorite of the fight.

R2:

Marvel team wins. SS is the MVP . Also Donna and Starfire kinda weaklinks for DC

R1:

• Beta Ray Bill vs Wonder Woman: Could go either way.


• Silver Surfer vs Black Adam: Surfer obviously


• Quasar vs Green Lantern(Hal Jordan): Quasar wins an unfair match-up


• Ronan the Accuser vs Donna Troy: No idea.


• Jane Foster Thor vs Captain Marvel (Billy Batson): Billy


• Nova Prime vs Superman: Superman in a borderline stomp.


• Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Starfire: Kori beats the shit out of Carol.

R2: Team Marvel decisively.

Round 1

Wonder Woman beats the breaks of off BRB, faster, more skilled, better equipped...Diana blocks Superman and Doomsday so BRB isn't breaking her guard, deflects Olympian god blasts and 5D beings so BRB isn't frying her, she reacts to speedsters, teleporters and has better feats of skill and speed than BRB overall and she's equipped to one shot BRB since there's no reason he can break out of the lasso and no reason her swords won't decapitate him on an atomic level.

Silver Surfer would beat Black Adam, Norrin is physically comparable to Teth, but he's got more power and speed overall. Based on his fights with Thor, Teth can definitely put up a fight but can't kill or KO Norrin....nor will he be able to anticipate or react to the board breaking his spine should Surfer get knocked off of it.

Hal has no reason to lose to Quasar, he's more powerful overall, is literally living willpower and already stalemated an energy drainer powerful enough to kill/drain all the Lanterns and Guardians in his universe. That was literally the only thing that gave Quasar any edge over Hal and it's gone.....Hal wins for being more powerful.

Ronan has HAX apparently so he might beat Donna, I don't know how far his HAX goes but if it's able to bypass her bracers and lasso he can win, otherwise, he gets blitzed

Billy blitzes Jane Foster Thor, not much to put here, he outclasses her in speed, strong enough to knock her out, durable enough to take her hits plus magic resistance...she can't really compensate for it.

Superman stomps Nova Prime, superior combat speed, durability and striking power mean Superman strikes first and is in no danger or a counter attack, Nova isn't coming back from a blitz from Superman and can do very little against him physically or otherwise.

Carol gets blitzed by Starfire, Carol is slower by far and has no reason to keep up with Starfire in a fight.

Now for Round 2......DC Team wins by easily stomping the weaker people like Carol, Nova, Ronan and Jane before Quasar, BRB and Surfer get done fighting whoever's closer to them in strength....Surfer will be the last one standing on his team against at least 3 members of the Justice League who could put up a fight on their own...Surfer is getting wanked here if people think he can solo Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern, that's a fact...Arguably the most powerful being here, Norrin consistently stalemates the likes of Thor. So while he's top of his class, he's not a skyfather or something. Wonder Woman, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Superman and Hal Jordan are all smarter and faster fighters than Thor as well as many other beings who have given Norrin trouble.

Honestly, Norrin physically outclasses most of his own team, on DCs side, he outclasses Donna and Starfire, that's it. Everyone else is consistently fighting each other on near equal terms, being compared to each other by Superman or otherwise stalemating. Technicalities aside, Team DC has more fighters on Surfer's physical stat class than Team Marvel. The closest thing to a rival for Surfer is Hal Jordan due to how versatile and overall powerful he is in comparison to his teammates. Surfer is technically better in every way, but Hal can do most of what Surfer can do using willpower and without being completely ignorant it's safe to say he has defenses for most of what Surfer is capable of doing to him or his teammates. Him being able to pull it off is the only thing to argue about.

I could argue Wonder Woman being able to cut Silver Surfer with her sword ftw as well but in the end this comes down to who can kill Surfer....

Surfer and Quasar carry the team to victory.