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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
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Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Ainz.
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
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Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Ainz.
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Ainz.
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
Who would win? The Strongest Esper or The Sorcerer King of Death?
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Round 1: Pre-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 2: Post-headshot Accelerator against Ainz with his usual equipment. No black or white wings for Accelerator. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 3: Black Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, excluding world items. Both have no knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 4: White Wings Accelerator against Ainz with all of his equipment, including world items. Both have full knowledge of each other's capabilities.
Round 5: Both can access their full capabilities. Both have 1 hour of prep time.
Location: Takes place in New York City.
Morals on for both, along with them being in-character.
Anime, Manga and Novel feats for both.
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Ainz takes this every round.
He stomps in round 5 even more
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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Pre headshot accel is pretty cocky so he might lose, but I don’t see how Ainz gets pass his vector field.
Post head shot accel has 30 mins, Ainz might win.
Black wing accel turns him into plasma
Same as above
Don’t know how this goes
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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@ecoblitz: Ainz can simply use time stop and death to kill in Round 1.
Same goes for round 2.
Ainz has knowledge in round 3. He stops times and uses Wish Upon A Star, to erase Accelerator power out of existence (basically Reality Warping and Fate manipulation. Imagine a lessee version of Miracles from Saint Seiya)
Same goes for round 4.
Ainz uses Downfall of Castle and Country to mindrape Accel. Keep in mind that this world class items can and has bypass even Shalltear who is immune to all type of mind manipulation. Or he use one of high illusion spells to turn any illusion into reality.
World class items are the most powerful items in Overlord so far, almost all kf them capable of changing the law of physics/magic/reality.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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Read both series. Accel blitzes and punts Papa Bones skull through the stratosphere every round.
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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@kroczilla said:
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
Everything mentioned doesn't solve the issue which is Overlord is a slow verse with almost no speed feats and Accelerator would have already punted his skull before he even processed a thought. Accel these days doesn't mess around or give his opponents any opportunities, opting to ending his fights swiftly.
And than let's talk about them. The Goal of All Life is Death does nothing in itself. All it does is boost Ainz's other attacks by having them ignore immunities or resistances of the opponent. But at the cost of everything Ainz does being delayed by 12 seconds first.
Does nothing for getting by Accelerator's Reflection for starters since it only applies to buffs or resistances, and Ainz just boned himself by making himself powerless for 12 seconds. Literal suicide.
Now for Grasp Heart.
Accelerator has his own version, except it's not limited to just the heart, but any body part he chooses, including blowing Ainz's fingers off before he can even wrap them around the heart like Accelerator did to these terrorists:
"Of course, they didn‘t come here to just die when they planned this large-scale mission. At this place, this time, as a human they all felt their lives are in danger. To be released from this threat they unreservedly used all the techniques and knowledge they have learned up to this point, bringing their full strength to fight back against the white-haired esper.
Some of them tried to shoot with their rifles from behind cover.
Some of them tried to use hostages to stop their opponent‘s movement.
Some of them tried to use dynamite to destroy the columns and bury their opponent in the rubble.
These were good actions, except it was all meaningless.
Forget about it even having a effect, there was no value in even trying.
The bullets didn‘t work.
As soon it touched the monster‘s skin, it was reflected back and shot the terrorists themselves.
Taking hostages didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to reach for the kids, their wrists were twisted in an unnatural manner.
Dynamite didn‘t work.
As soon as they tried to push the button for it to explode, their fingers were blown away along with the button."
His telekinesis even worked on Kakine, another Level 5. Kakine just Awakened and acquired power on the level where no other Esper or the combined military weapons on the planet could harm him now...
...immediately followed by Accelerator crushing that power, ripping his arm off, and driving him hard through the pavement all with a slight hand gesture.
"Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that spanned several tens of meters emitted a mysterious glow, and at the same time had an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.
Flap. The air around the six wings let out a howl.
Accelerator and Dark Matter controlled the organic and inorganic powers respectively.
Different from this world, this was ‘organic’ and ‘inorganic’ in terms of a different world. The One Who Wields the Power of God and The One Who Has Touched the Territory of God. Now the odds of victory were even, only that unlike Accelerator, Kakine hadn’t lost himself.
An unprecedented power was expanding within him.
And, he had perfectly mastered this power.
Now the position of the #1 and #2 of Academy City was about to be reversed. This was neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believed even if he fought against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he could emerge victorious and unharmed.
“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”
Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.
He no longer saw Accelerator as a threat, but only a thing to test his new powers on.
Splat.
Kakine Teitoku’s body was pressed into the asphalt by a great power.
“Wha…?!”
He completely didn’t understand what just happened.
Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and ground him deep into the ground.
His right hand that had the Tweezers on it was torn off from the elbow downwards.
(Ah! …Uwah! Wh-Wha?! Just what is—)
Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as an attack.
Even though he understood, even if Accelerator had gathered all the energies in this world, this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now couldn’t lose to this world."
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*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
*grasp heart*= gg no re
*the goal of all life is death*=gg no re
basically, ainz takes this handily
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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I’ll do all the explaining when I get don with my errands. But to put things bluntly; Ainz kills with a finger point.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
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@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
Light speed movement in Overlord is just rumors propagated by false translations of the series. Official translations from Yen Press say absolutely nothing of the sort.
Fan translation:
Thinking so in his head, Brain put everything into his slash.
“Tsuu!”
His breath was sharp and short.
The katana exploded from its sheath and cut through the air towards Shalltear’s bare neck.
The speed was like a flash of lightning. So fast that by the time the light entered your vision, your head would already be falling to the ground.
Millions of repetitions had finally resulted in a speed that entered the realm of gods.
However—
Shalltear had caught it with her fingers.
—a slash near the speed of light.
It was impossible, but he had no choice but to admit it.
Official translation: (Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2 pg. 61-62
Your head is mine! He spat the words in his mind as he flung himself at her.
“Tsut!” His exhalation was sharp and short.
The katana flew out of its sheath and stretched toward Shalltear’s neck, cutting the air itself. If one was to liken its speed to something: a bolt of lightning. By the time the flash registered, the head was falling—that’s how fast he was. Millions of repetitions had created a strike that truly reached the realm of the gods.
Got it.
He was sure—
—and his eyes widened in spite of himself.
He had cleaved through the air. If his strongest attack was completely dodged, then he would’ve admitted that an unimaginably strong enemy had finally appeared before him. But—
Shalltear had caught it—his strike that was as fast as a bolt of lightning.
As gently as if she were pinching the wing of a butterfly.
^ As shown, no mention of Brain moving at the speed of light. Most his swing was compared to was a lightning strike and even than, with nothing to back it up, that's easily hyperbole writing. Lightning-fast is a frequently used term.
The fact that Brain requires any sort of concentration to perceive just oncoming arrows confirms even his lightning speed is hyperbole as well.
Overlord Volume 3, Chapter 2, pg 59:
At the moment when he'd reached extreme focus, with his entire consciousness zeroed in on a single point, it counter intuitively expanded. The area's sounds, air, signs -- he had reached an awareness of the world where he could perceive everything. This was Domain -- his first original martial art.
The three-yard radius it covered was not so large, but he was aware of everything that happened within it. Put simply, the art raised his attack accuracy and evasion ability to the limit. Add to that Brain's trained body, and the power he gained from this art was beyond compare.
Even if a thousand arrows were to rain down on him, he was confident he could pick out only the ones that would hit him and cut them down to emerge unscathed. Not only that, but he was able to move precisely enough to slice a grain of wheath, and only that grain of wheat, from a distance.
Meanwhile, attacks that actually are lightning speed and not just flowery writing are nothing to most Level 5s.
2) And what exactly are those goblins and undead going to do other than get mowed down by Accelerator simply charging through them, blowing them away with his Reflection?
They can't interrupt him from TKing Ainz to pieces and even better, their just projectiles for Accelerator to karate kick into Ainz.
Accelerator ignored Kakine’s words and stomped on the gravel road, and then kicked the rocks that were sent flying up using a karate kick.
Boom! A loud explosion rang out.
The vectors of the pebbles were changed and fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimeters. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air.
Accel doesn't require a defense. There's not a thing in Overlord that can take a hit from Accel and Ainz gets blitzed to death. Ainz will have about as much luck taking a hit from him as Awakened Kakine did with his defense.
I mean, Accelerator can put the force of the Earth's rotation concentrated into his strikes and messed up Archangel Gabriel in one hit who'd be just fine in the epicenter of the release of it's power that has the force of a planet exploding.
@kroczilla said:
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
@chaosknight75: first off, I'm pretty sure the overlord verse has light speed reaction (I'm currently anime only but I hear than brain unglaus has a light speed attack in the LN)
Secondly, ainz doesn't need to unleash TGOALID instantly. He could just summon an army of undead and goblins to delay accel till it kicks in.
Thridly, accel still doesn't have a defense to grasp heart (he could defend against cry of banshee assuming he has knowledge of what it does). If ainz decides to pull the trigger first on an instant death move, accel is screwed. Meanwhile accel will have a harder time affecting ainz who iirc even with standard gear, it protected by several magical items.
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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@chaosknight75:Hey! I'd like to clarify something a bit cool about the Overlord Universe real quick.
Although it's true that likely nobody in Overlord is lightspeed, Overlord low-tiers have been described as lightning timers (an example would be zaryusu - I have many more examples too), and it wouldn't be a stretch to say the upper tiers have higher speeds than that. Unfortunately because of the lightspeed mixup w/ Brain everyone assumes that it's a slow verse when really it's on par with most other popular shounen verses.
In addition, because of the nature of the leveling system, etc, Ainz'es durability would be much higher than his Attack Output. For example, High 7th Tier magic (like Holy Smite) doesn't hurt Ainz, in fact he can barely feel it. Meanwhile, an 8th Tier magic like "Black Hole" Which summons a black hole on the target, would hurt ainz, but it would take multiple of them to actually do enough damage to kill him.
Accelerator does have the ability to passively reflect all vectors of attacks coming at him, but that unfortunately Ainz'es signature Instant-Death magic doesn't use vectors, they have no magnitude or direction. The passive would be effective on projected abilities (fireball, lightning dragon etc.)
It's like this haha, except a passive aura
PS: The US Navy's railgun shoots at Mach 8 I believe. I'm sure it probably meant much faster than that, but Mach 8 is kinda light for the Accellerator Universe
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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lightning speed in overlord is not just to describe how fast the attack or the movement or the reaction.but it is really the top speed in overlord,because there are also FTE feats exist in overlord,it's just weird if the writer doesn't know the difference between lightning speed and FTE speed
also,i think grasp heart is not really his favorite opening anymore,since he recenlty started to use other death spell like 'death' more often,where he could just use it without using/moving his hand like grasp heart and without need to saying it with silent magic
don't forget that he could also teleport to very far distance with greater teleportation,or using world item to erase his opponent existence
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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Well, The Goal of All Life is Death would presumably let Ainz "kill" Accel's AIM Field, allowing him to Grasp Heart and kill him. So there's always that.
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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BUMP!
Also, don't forget that Ainz has a ring that allows him to resurrect once with little loss of EXP, and the fact that he can use Wish Upon A Star to grant his wishes (which is basically Reality Warping).
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