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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I don't think so.
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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Nope.
You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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No.
And once the O5 go back let us never speak of this Bendis inspired train wreck again.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@elpendejo said:
Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
Not just you. A small number still.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@the_living_tribunal_24 said:
@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
I agree.
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@del_torro: if you say so.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@del_torro: Exactly! I’m glad someone else can see what I’m talking about.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I don't think so.
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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Nope.
You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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No.
And once the O5 go back let us never speak of this Bendis inspired train wreck again.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@elpendejo said:
Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
Not just you. A small number still.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
Right, you win. I don't even want to think about this anymore.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
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Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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No.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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Not just you. A small number still.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
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Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@elpendejo said:
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@pyrofn said:
@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
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Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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No.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@elpendejo said:
Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
Not just you. A small number still.
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@pyrofn said:
@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@the_living_tribunal_24 said:
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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Nope.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
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Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I don't think so.
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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Nope.
You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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No.
And once the O5 go back let us never speak of this Bendis inspired train wreck again.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
Really?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@elpendejo said:
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Not just you. A small number still.
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@pyrofn said:
@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@the_living_tribunal_24 said:
@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
Poll: Should we consider Teen Jean's feats as feats for Real Adult Jean? (13 votes)
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Yes but only teen Jean's feats, not including Xorna and future teen Jean 23%
Yes, including Xorna and Future Teen Jean's feats 15%
No 62%
Just wondering, seeing as they are technically supposed to be the same person since they are from the same timeline (assuming Teen Jean goes back, which is likely due to Extermination) should we count Teen Jean's feats for adult Jean as well? And what about the feats of Future Teen Jean/Adult Teen Jean? Do we consider Xorna's feats? What about the Adult Teen Jean we see in the current X-Men Blue?
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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I'd consider teen Jean/future teen Jeans feats to be Adult Jeans feats of she gets sent back in Extermination (even if her memory is wiped), because it'd mean that she's still capable of those things.
I wouldn't consider Xornas feats to be Adult Jeans feats, because Xorna is no longer teen Jeans future and has been erased from existing.
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Nope.
You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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Nope.
You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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Nope.
You cant assume she can do something if your not sure she retains the knowledge or the conditioning to do it.
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And once the O5 go back let us never speak of this Bendis inspired train wreck again.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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I said yes, but it was more of a hope rather than a we should. Unless we have evidence of Teen Jean transferring her knowledge at the very least, it would be presumptuous to say Jean can do what Teen Jean could. I mean Jean could, but there is a lack of evidence saying it other than that Teen Jean did it, why can't real Jean.
@ashetdust: But I don't want to forget Teen Jean post-Bendis. She was awesome in Bunns and Hopeless (maybe a little annoying) run.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
Really?
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
Really?
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
Really?
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@pyrofn: You don’t think it’s beginning to get just a wee bit silly when they show adult Jeen taking on Galactus and 4 heralds?
Really?
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@elpendejo: Maybe???? I am more of a fan of Bunns Teen Jean and Hopeless Teen Jean grew on me.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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@pyrofn: I think I like bendis’ teen Jean because I got to see her explore her new found telepathy which I wish I got to see more with Emma and Xavier. Bendis’ teen Jean also seemed a lot like New X men Jean which is kinda my favorite rendition of Jean. I also liked how Jeen changed from kinda weak in her own timeline thanks Xavier’s mental blocks to an Uber psion in an instant when they went to the future.
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Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
Not just you. A small number still.
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@elpendejo said:
Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
Not just you. A small number still.
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@elpendejo said:
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@elpendejo said:
Guess I am the only one who loves bendis’ team Jean
Not just you. A small number still.
@elpendejo said:
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
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@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
It's the fact that people actually consider Jeen punching out Galactus and then them having a return bought as a perfectly reasonable thing that is making me question if I really want to say I'm even a fan of Jean anymore. I know they wanted to play up Jean since she was gone for awhile, but this is just, ugh.
Perfectly reasonable she says.
Right, you win. I don't even want to think about this anymore.
@pyrofn said:
@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
@pyrofn said:
@ashetdust: You are asking me if it's silly for a guy bigger than the earth with giant goofy purple helmet to have four silver naked men on surfboards. This is a silly concept even for just one silver naked man in a surfboard.
So, in essence, no, I don't think it's silly when taking it into context that this is a world of silly things like talking ducks and raccoons, a giant green bodybuilder, and a giant cosmic chicken who can possess the body of a red-headed psychic who is in love with a guy who wears a red visor to keep control of a giant concussive force from a dimension of limitless energy that can punch holes in mountains.
In the context of Bunns Galactus, it makes sense. Galactic has a giant amount of energy, enough to destroy a planet, and he can imbue a portion into other individuals. Why not have more than one, especially when having only one usually gets bodied by those supposedly weaker than it? It reminds me of that inside of Avengers EMH. And given the fact that Bunn posted Galactus as one whose authority is not to be tricked with, whether your the almost Phoenix or not, I can see Galactus holding a grudge, especially after losing to Phoenix, not just once, but three times, two if you don't count the machine meant to separate Phoenix and Rachel. BUT, given that Galactus might simply be talking about Generations, it still makes sense because she humiliated him with a single punch and he fled with a bruised ego. So, in this context, no, it's perfectly reasonable.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@The_living_tribunal_24: Ha, I remember The mighty Thor vol 1, Galactus stripped Norrin of his power and gave it to an old priest. Norrin was naked :P
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@AsheTDust: yeah, I don't mind her punching him, just because you punched someone doesn't mean you'll win. But true, she shouldn't be on Galactus level, I hope in the issue she does well against the surfers but gets taken out by Galactus.
I don't want Jean getting fridged again for being overpowered, or not being used for over a decade because writers think she's too powerful or being depowered so she doesn't end every battle. Just look at Nate grey and Monica Rambeau
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@del_torro: he didn't strip him of his powers, he gave norrin the power to change into his zenn-lavian form. In most recent and earlier years it was shown norrin isn't naked iirc.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@The_living_tribunal_24: well that's not sexy at all, I prefer my surfers naked.
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@the_living_tribunal_24 said:
@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
I agree.
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@the_living_tribunal_24 said:
@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
I agree.
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@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
I agree.
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@the_living_tribunal_24 said:
@pyrofn: the surfer is not naked
I agree.
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@del_torro: if you say so.
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@del_torro: if you say so.
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@del_torro: if you say so.
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@del_torro: if you say so.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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No. They're from different Earths and Tean Jean is a different incarnation of Jean.
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@del_torro: Exactly! I’m glad someone else can see what I’m talking about.
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@del_torro: Exactly! I’m glad someone else can see what I’m talking about.
Thank you.
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@del_torro: Exactly! I’m glad someone else can see what I’m talking about.
Thank you.
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@del_torro: Exactly! I’m glad someone else can see what I’m talking about.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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@ashetdust: Oooooohhhh, you're problem isn't with the story. It's with Jean being wanted to Galactus level. You should've said that instead of going about how it might be silly Galactus would have four Surfers and want to kill Jean.
This may be a byproduct of Generations, but it is what it is. We are still not entirely convinced to count Teen Jeans feats for real Jean to begin aith, so unless real Jean starts doing Galactus level stuff, you shouldn't be worried to begin with. Not to mention that Xavier was capable of sending every mind on a planet to Galactus through his own powers. It's already agreed upon usually that Jean is potentially more powerful than Xavier, so there is no reason to believe that she could at the very least hurt Galactic without holding back.
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