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Live action team battle, who would win?


Jean has access to Phoenix power.



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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho












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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



pretty sure he`s not ftl



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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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@aotd: He is with flashtime












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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.












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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.












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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.












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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.












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I think quicksilver is just too fast to lose.












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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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CW Thinker & CW Flash vs FOX Quicksilver & FOX Jean Grey















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#1
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Live action team battle, who would win?


Jean has access to Phoenix power.



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#2
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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho












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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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#5
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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



pretty sure he`s not ftl



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#10
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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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@aotd: He is with flashtime












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#12
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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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#14
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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



Comic versions












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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.












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#17
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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.












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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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#19
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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.












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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.












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#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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Live action team battle, who would win?


Jean has access to Phoenix power.



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#2
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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho












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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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#7
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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



pretty sure he`s not ftl



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#10
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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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@aotd: He is with flashtime












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#12
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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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#14
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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



Comic versions












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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.












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#17
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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.












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#18
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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.












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#22
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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.












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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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Live action team battle, who would win?


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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho












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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.












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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.












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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.












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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.












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#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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Live action team battle, who would win?


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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho












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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



pretty sure he`s not ftl



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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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@aotd: He is with flashtime












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#12
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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



Comic versions












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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.












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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.












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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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#19
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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.












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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.












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#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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Live action team battle, who would win?


Jean has access to Phoenix power.



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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho












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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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@aotd: He is with flashtime












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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



Comic versions












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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.












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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.












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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.












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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.












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#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.












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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.












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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all












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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.












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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.












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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.












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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.












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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)












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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)












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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)















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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.












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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.










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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho








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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho








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Why is qs here ? He gets destroyed idk about jean tho







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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.








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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.








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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.







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Interesting fight here. Jean is a glass cannon here and her reflexes aren't very good, so I'd doubt she could do much here. CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver, but is prone to jobbing and being immensely stupid with his powers, usually forgetting any skill he has learned in favour of punching.


Thinker is the big factor here and with his many forms of hax, could deal with Jean and react to Quicksilver, considering that his casual reaction speed allows him to react to Barry and dodge his attacks multiple times. He could solo if he takes out Jean early on here.









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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.








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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.








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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.







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I think Barry could solo. At worse, if he starts jobbing too much DeVoe and his endless OP superpowers can back him up.













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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?








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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?








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Can jean grey react to Cw flash ?









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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances



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@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver





i actually thought that Quick is more faster than Flash... at least on the screen his speed feats looks more impressive to me, but maybe it`s just me as i`m actually have limited knowledge about both team characters other than their tv show/movie performances





@stalin-is-steel said:


CW Flash is more than likely to be faster than Quicksilver







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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all








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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all








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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all







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@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all









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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.








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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.








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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.







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It really all hinges on the thinker but if you just drop them in front of each other Jean can mind wreck and then disintegrate flash and the thinker imo.









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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



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@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all



pretty sure he`s not ftl





@eobard21 said:

@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all





@eobard21 said:


@aotd: Cw flash at his best is ftl and qs is only mach 11k so qs has no chance at all





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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.








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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.








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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.







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On screen Quicksilver is faster at base levels. All he has to do is grab Jean and she will vaporize the other team.









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@aotd: He is with flashtime








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@aotd: He is with flashtime








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@aotd: He is with flashtime







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@aotd: He is with flashtime









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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.








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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.







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I was about to say this was a stomp till I saw this was the fox versions, I think I'll back team one.









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@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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@aotd said:

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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?



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@aotd said:

@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?





@aotd said:


@thewatcherking: and what versions it`s supposed to be for stomp on team two?









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I’m betting on team two.


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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.








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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.







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I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.









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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.








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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.







#16
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I haven't changed my opinion. Thinker can easily solo with his hax.









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#17
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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.








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#17
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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.








#17
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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.







#17
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@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.




By feats flash is faster, and what is stopping Thinker from using abilities other than TP? He could just crush Jean's lungs,or something.





@pyrofn said:


I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.






@pyrofn said:



I’m betting on team two.


Thinker has not had experience in telepathic combat against another telepath and Quicksilver seems to be faster than the Flash.










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#18
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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)








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#18
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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)








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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)







#18
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Going CW team for sure, Barry via Flashtime where literally everyone is a statue to him while Thinker is literally the brains(nevermind his other powers)









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#19
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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)








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#19
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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)








#19
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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)







#19
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@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone? I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)









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#20
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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)











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#20
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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)











#20
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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)










#20
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@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)








@pyrofn said:


@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)






@pyrofn said:



@thewatcherking: If Thinker uses anything other than Telepathy, than he will leave himself open to an attack.


While this is true his chances of winning are pretty much nonexistent if he uses telepathy due to being way weaker than Jean. But despite being a weaker telepath he has abilities to which she has no defense against, and is fast enough to use them.



What are your estimations of Quicksilvers Apocalypse feat in conjunction to the fastest Barry has gone?


From what I have seen QS' speed feat puts him at least at mach 8,000. But Barry has speed feats(like running from Central city, to China, and back) that would put him many times faster than that. According to one calculation for it, that would put Barry's speed at around mach 70,000.


I’m only going by what others estimate Quicksilvers speed to be and statements on what Flash has done and what his velocity would be. (Aka I’m relying on other sources rather than trying to estimate it myself)










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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.








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#21
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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.








#21
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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.







#21
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@thewatcherking: Assuming her telekinesis won’t protect her? Or that her mind won’t reach him, due to it being instantaneous vs most of his abilities requiring movement (with exception to his telepathy, technopathy and luck abilities)


I guess I will take your word for it, though that isn’t what I saw others saying.









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#22
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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.








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#22
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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.








#22
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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.







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@pyrofn: Has she shown that she can counter gravity manipulation with TK? If she has, or can get him with her TP then Jean likely wins.



Also I'm basing QS' speed off this, so if it's wrong then my mistake.









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#23
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I think quicksilver is just too fast to lose.








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I think quicksilver is just too fast to lose.








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I think quicksilver is just too fast to lose.







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I think quicksilver is just too fast to lose.









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#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.








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#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.








#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.







#24
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Thinker can solo and so can Barry.









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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.








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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.








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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.







#25
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@thewatcherking: From the dvd commentary of X-Men: The Last Stand, the only mention of gravity was used in regards to an X-Men movie. According Bret Ratner (ugh), his interpretation of Jeans telekinesis at their most powerful would be capable of reversing gravity. I think that’s what he said. I’d have to rewatch the movie to find out.


I’m basing my calculations off of these links.


https://www.quora.com/How-fast-is-Quicksilver-while-saving-people-in-X-Men-Apocalypse


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-fast-is-fox-quicksilver-1867410/


I can’t find any concrete estimations, since no one is in total agreement on how fast he went in that mansion feat. Ergo why I’m left to either take the word of a non-credible source, or admit to my inability to make my own calculations properly. I chose the latter.









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