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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
I have no problem with shaky cam if it's done right because I could still follow the action. The real problem is the poor use of it
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Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
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@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
Honestly it just seems like shaky cam is a cheap substitute for an actor that cant learn complicated choreography. As far as i can tell the best case scenario is just acceptable. I wish it would die and we could have 100 John wicks lol.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
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Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
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@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
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Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
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@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
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Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
Russo Bros. 29%
Paul Greengrass 71%
If you don't know who Paul Greengrass is. He directed the Bourne trilogy and Captain Philips.
Edited 4 months, 22 days ago
Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
Russo Bros. 29%
Paul Greengrass 71%
If you don't know who Paul Greengrass is. He directed the Bourne trilogy and Captain Philips.
Edited 4 months, 22 days ago
Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
Russo Bros. 29%
Paul Greengrass 71%
If you don't know who Paul Greengrass is. He directed the Bourne trilogy and Captain Philips.
Poll: Who's better at using shaky cam?? Paul Greengrass or Russo Bros? (17 votes)
Russo Bros. 29%
Paul Greengrass 71%
Russo Bros. 29%
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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Greengrass didn't direct the original Bourne trilogy in its entirety, just Supremacy and Ultimatum; Identity was directed by Liman. Greengrass did return after Gilroy's Bourne Legacy, though.
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
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@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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@johncena69swag: Nah. Shaky cam can be used well if done right. I also heard a lot of complaints that CGI ruined cinema which is also stupid.
Both are just tools and it can be done wrong or right depending on who's doing it.
Just look at Saving Private Ryan, The Winter Soldier and Kingsman The Secret Service. All of those has shaky cam but the action was easy to follow unlike Alex Cross and the Resident Evil movies.
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Grengrass.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
Honestly it just seems like shaky cam is a cheap substitute for an actor that cant learn complicated choreography. As far as i can tell the best case scenario is just acceptable. I wish it would die and we could have 100 John wicks lol.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
Honestly it just seems like shaky cam is a cheap substitute for an actor that cant learn complicated choreography. As far as i can tell the best case scenario is just acceptable. I wish it would die and we could have 100 John wicks lol.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
Honestly it just seems like shaky cam is a cheap substitute for an actor that cant learn complicated choreography. As far as i can tell the best case scenario is just acceptable. I wish it would die and we could have 100 John wicks lol.
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@loyngulpany: kingsman actually did a great job with not using the shaky cam and had some of the best action sequences I've seen. You could also compare the action in like John wick or the matrix to taken or the Bourne movies and yeah the shaky cam ruins the action in the latter two imo.
Two examples of really good action in one long continuous shot (or at least creates that illusion)
And then compare that to the best of what shaky cam has to offer
Honestly it just seems like shaky cam is a cheap substitute for an actor that cant learn complicated choreography. As far as i can tell the best case scenario is just acceptable. I wish it would die and we could have 100 John wicks lol.
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@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
Both. He's superior at the technique when he uses it properly, but can overdo it much more often than the Russos do. United 93 exemplifies both traits at once.
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@payneintheass said:
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
Both. He's superior at the technique when he uses it properly, but can overdo it much more often than the Russos do. United 93 exemplifies both traits at once.
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@payneintheass said:
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
Both. He's superior at the technique when he uses it properly, but can overdo it much more often than the Russos do. United 93 exemplifies both traits at once.
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@payneintheass said:
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
Both. He's superior at the technique when he uses it properly, but can overdo it much more often than the Russos do. United 93 exemplifies both traits at once.
@payneintheass said:
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
@payneintheass said:
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
But with this you mean that Paul´s use was better? or the other way around.
@morpheus_ said:
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
I'd say United 93 singlehandedly gives him the win - almost in a landslide. And by that I mean that, while realistic, it was more distracting to watch than anything the Russos have done.
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
I have no problem with shaky cam if it's done right because I could still follow the action. The real problem is the poor use of it
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
I have no problem with shaky cam if it's done right because I could still follow the action. The real problem is the poor use of it
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
I have no problem with shaky cam if it's done right because I could still follow the action. The real problem is the poor use of it
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@johncena69swag: well I kinda agree with you. I want more movies like John Wick which derives heavily from Hong Kong action movies.
I have no problem with shaky cam if it's done right because I could still follow the action. The real problem is the poor use of it
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