This is a canon gauntlet and each confrontation takes place on neutral grounds...

Combatant: Jedi Master Luminara Unduli

Location: The Geonosian Arena

Arsenal: Her lightsaber and the full extent of her force capabilities

Context: Luminara is blood-lusted and fighting to the fullest of her abilities with no reservations about killing her fellow Jedi combatants when the moment arises

The Gauntlet

1. Stass Allie


2. Aayla Secura


3. Barris Offee


4. Even Piell


5. Ki-Adi-Mundi


6. Jango Fett


7. Adi Gallia


8. Eeth Koth


9. Plo Koon


10. Qui-Gon Jinn

How far does she get?

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Jango Fett is a Jedi?

@holocron24:

Stass Allie - Luminara wins without the slightest doubt, to be honest. The best that Allie has going for her is surviving the Geonosis battle, which is neat, but not Luminara level. Other than that, she can be mused to be somewhat capable in Force mastery, if you consider how rare healer talents are. Other than that, no slightest contest.

Aayla Secura - far better, but just not Luminara's league. Luminara is simply higher class, rather around Legends Quinlan, who is plainly superior.

Barriss Offee - honestly, I will just pass on this one. Canon only, her showing against Anakin, stealth attack on Asajj, stomp of Ahsoka, seal the deal. Canon only there would be like no contest. Legends? Impossible to gauge that showing in comparison with everything else, in a broader spectrum.

Even Piell - honestly, he is Aayla-level at the very best. Aayla's feats are superior to Even's in pretty much any regard, she is far better documented, her feats are outstandingly superior. No contest.

Ki-Adi Mundi - should stop here. Could dwelve into a lot of details about the Force, where Mundi shows clear superiority, but it's not such a difference that Force would turn the tide. But Mundi is basically superior in every combative field. Better showings against duelists of Ventress's calliber, better endurance, somewhat greater speeds, reaction speed, combative versatility. She won't pass Mundi.

Jango Fett - eh, dunno. A difficult debate on its own.

Adi Gallia - honestly, the most even contest perhaps. Very similiar in skill, very similiar in all of their showings, while Luminara retains the Force edge, but it won't matter much in fights of people of their calliber, and it would be more reliable on their actual fighting skill - to implement these Force pushes and what-not properly. And within their skills - they are totally comparable. Can't tell.

Eeth Koth - basically the same story as with Adi Gallia. Koth's showing against Grievous >> Gallia's showing against Savage, but Eeth's showing is too limited to draw larger conclusions.

Plo Koon - falls, that's all. Plo Koon is more powerful, more masterful in the Force's usage, more skilled in its combative use, more versatile combatively, physically stronger, he is way faster, way more skillful, way better combatively, etc. She falls without the smallest doubt.

Qui-Gon Jinn - honestly, he's just below Plo. But I would deem Qui-Gon a slightly superior duelist, whereas Luminara's Force edge won't matter much.

EDIT: Oh I have missed that. It's canon-only, so in canon it goes like this:

1. Murderstomps Stass Allie.


2. Wins against Aayla without the smallest doubt.


3. Gets dropped by Bariss with small resistance.


4. Wins against Even Piell, decisively.


5. Wins against Ki-Adi Mundi, decisively.


6. Dunno about Jango.


7. Dunno about Adi Gallia.


8. Falls against Eeth Koth, with good resistance.


9. Falls against Plo Koon, with legitimate resistance.


10. Gets dropped against Qui-Gon Jinn decisively.

@holocron24: First, don't really know her. But she probably stops at jango at least. Especially if qui gon is considered the best out of these since I consider Jango better than qui gon in jedi killing.

^ XD

@ostyo said:

Lol :P

No, he's a professional Jedi killer so should give Luminara as much of a challenge as any of the Jedi on the list

He never specificed this gauntlet was Jedi-only. Unless I'm missing something.

In any case, should stop at Ki-Adi, who forced Asajj Ventress to retreat in their fight. Asajj was contending pretty much on equal terms with Luminara (while Luminara was blinded in one eye).

Oh crap canon-only ...

1. Stass Allie - ???


2. Aayla Secura - Could go either way. I'd side with Unduli for a majority.


3. Barris Offee - Could go either way. I'd side with Barris for a majority for having arguably superior TK and having better skill feats.


4. Even Piell - ???


5. Ki-Adi-Mundi - Mundi.


6. Jango Fett - Jango Fett.


7. Adi Gallia - Unduli.


8. Eeth Koth - Unduli. Though admittedly I don't know much of Koth outside of RotS and TCW.


9. Plo Koon - Plo Koon.


10. Qui-Gon Jinn - Qui Gon Jinn.

Really doesn't get past Ki-Adi, IMO.

Stass Allie did manage to casually defeat two MagnaGuards in Reversal of Fortune so I don't get why she's so underrated. But Luminara can probably take her. Ki should stop her.

Should stop at Mundi TBH

@themuser@shootingnova@wollfmyth209

This is a Canon Gauntlet and Ki-Adi-Mundi has no feats in the new canon other than surviving the Battle of Geonosis which Luminara also did, and Unduli also duelled evenly with Ventress whilst hindered as she was blinded in one eye

Mundi so far has no duelling feats, or are you just inferring his relative ability from his 'Legends' Counterpart. Otherwise, I can't see why he defeats her???

Why is Barriss below a featless council member? Hell why is Barriss so low to begin with?

@holocron24: Canon only, ey?

Jinn, then.

@juiceboks said:

Even Piell is a respected member of the Jedi council and is shown in TCW series to simultaneously TK blast 4 Super-Battle Droids, destroying them all. He withstood 2 days, presumably continuous, torture at the hands of Separatists and did not give away a single piece of information which shows immense durability. He also is shown to destroy a number of BX-Commando Droids and destroys three/ possibly four IIRC DSD1 dwarf spider droids on his own which shows impressive combative acumen.

Barriss Offee is likely his equal as she defeated Ahsoka who should presumably be ranked below a Jedi Council member who is respected martial Jedi with years of combat experience and commands his own armed forces which shows that he is a tactician.

Her best feat is holding her own against Anakin. But again, Anakin was taking on a young Jedi Padawan who he previously worked alongside so is unlikely to go all out against her and he only discovered her 'dark deeds' moments before their duel so he is probably very very reluctant to go in for the kill or even want to maim her at all so is likely to be holding back just as he did against Ahsoka when she was 'possessed' by the Brother...

So he's not featless and her feat against Anakin is dubious at best...

Although, admittedly I don't like him much and he was killed by a wolf/dog thing :P

Also, you didn't say where you think Luminara stops?

@wollfmyth209 said:

I probably agree since poor Master Plo is featless in the new Canon...

However, I'm unsure as to whether she would get past Koth since he was able to defend against Grievous with an injured arm after destroying 4 BX-Commando Droids which should match her feat of being similarly injured (blind in one eye) against Ventress who is not as skilled/powerful as Grievous. He only lost when the Magnaguard's intervened...

I think it would be 50/50 between the two

@holocron24

Even Piell is a respected member of the Jedi council and is shown in TCW series to simultaneously TK blast 4 Super-Battle Droids, destroying them all

That's not even an Ahsoka level TK feat tbh.

He withstood 2 days, presumably continuous, torture at the hands of Separatists and did not give away a single piece of information which shows immense durability.

That's shows decent willpower which isn't very relevant here.

He also is shown to destroy a number of BX-Commando Droids and destroys three/ possibly four IIRC DSD1 dwarf spider droids on his own which shows impressive combative acumen.

Decent feat but it's not very useful in judging his dueling capabilities which is what is in question here.

Barriss Offee is likely his equal as she defeated Ahsoka who should presumably be ranked below a Jedi Council member who is respected martial Jedi with years of combat experience and commands his own armed forces which shows that he is a tactician.

This is of course operating under some imaginary precedent that all Council members exhibit a similar level of combat acumen, which is faulty logic and a poor excuse for his lack of showings.

Her best feat is holding her own against Anakin. But again, Anakin was taking on a young Jedi Padawan who he previously worked alongside so is unlikely to go all out against her and he only discovered her 'dark deeds' moments before their duel so he is probably very very reluctant to go in for the kill or even want to maim her at all

If by worked together you mean fought on the same battlefield then sure, but he was in no way even remotely close to her. At best she was a friendly Jedi, one whom Anakin presumed got rid of Ahsoka. He may not have been bloodlusted, but I see no reason for him to hold back against her given what the knowledge he had of her misdoings. This is especially evident towards the end of the duel when he relentlessly batters down on her. Likewise Barriss wasn't likely going all out either, and was more focused on escaping capture rather than killing Anakin for at least a good portion of the duel.

So he's not featless and her feat against Anakin is dubious at best...

He's never dueled anyone..ever. Relative to others who have multiple times in addition to replicating similar combat showings some times over he might as well be. And no, Barriss' showing against isn't at all dubious. Both had their own turns in taking the upperhand and it only ended when he abused his TK advantage. I see no reason why she should be so low on this gauntlet and I honestly believe Luminara stops at her.

@holocron24: Damn it! Canon only again?

Holo you should really make this EU for more interesting discussion. Unless you're just trying to gauge canon rankings?

@holocron24: Cannon only :/ I retract.

Agreed, I really don't like having to debate "only cannon" mainly because I find the stuff that is just cannon wholly uninteresting.

Canon only? Half of these guys do pretty much nothing in canon. She'd stop at 8 and 10. Stalemating an enraged Ventress while injured and with a form advantage < stalemating General Grievous with several disadvantages, and contending with Darth Maul.

If it was Legends included, it'd stop at 5.

Stops at 8,who should be above 9 via feats.

Could stop at 3. She doesn't make it past 8.

5 should deal with her.

If she makes it past 5, 6 dominates her

Stops at 3, keeping up with Annie is better than anything Luminara ever did.

Stops at 6 and Barriss should be a bit higher