Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Anti Spiral and Hades

Dormammu, Kubik and Galactus

Composite feats for both teams ( No Eternity powers or Ultimate Nullifier for Dormammu and Galactus)

Everyone at full power

Kubik solos

Eh, I don't know about that. Kubik may be a cosmic cube being, but Kubik hasn't really done much iirc and if what I'm reading about Anti-Spiral and STTGL is correct (Multiversal Labyrinth), then he probably won't even do damage to them. Galactus is a different story though.

@kilgpmktra said:

Kubik is likely-wise more powerful than Galactus by a considerable margin, Dormammu is not that far behind either.

i guess it depends but I don't think Kubik is more powerful than Lifebringer Galactus as of late. Maybe i'm missing something?

@kilgpmktra said:

I don't believe Lifebringer Galactus was ever revealed to be more powerful than a regular, moderately fed one or at least doesn't have the feats to indicate as so.

I guess it's more to due with Marvel expanding their cosmology. lifebringer galactus has the 6th dying multiverse contained in him who is viewed as a sibling to the "true" Eternity where he also stated that he can view infinite timelines due to his "true" vision. There's more from what i've seen, but it should at least be comparable to STTGL/Anti-Spiral

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@kilgpmktra: I see, didn't remember that.

He should be the MVP in the battle then, especially because the only somewhat comparable feat I remember from Dormammu was Impossible Man using a portion of his power to create a singularity that would destroy the multiverse in A+X#15(His Flame Crown according to the storyline), which is more of a high-end showing than anything else.

Wow. I didn't even know that. That's actually very impressive

Thanks for telling me the issue. He's waaay stronger than I thought then

Well, like I said in another thread:

"He actually has three feats from three different storylines that fall into that category(Strange Tales#146, Doctor Strange#171/172 and A+X#15). Two of them were under one of his weakest incarnations."

The one from Strange Tales is only impressive when taking other sources into consideration and the info they bring(Marvel- Absolutely Everything You Need To Know, DSSS#22 and so on), but yeah, Dormammu has more than one feat in the multi-universal/multiversal category and that without needing any scaling or ABC logic.

And you're welcome, friend.

@kilgpmktra said:

@andromeda101 said:

@kilgpmktra said:

i guess it depends but I don't think Kubik is more powerful than Lifebringer Galactus as of late. Maybe i'm missing something?

I don't believe Lifebringer Galactus was ever revealed to be more powerful than a regular, moderately fed one or at least doesn't have the feats to indicate as so.

I guess it's more to due with Marvel expanding their cosmology. lifebringer galactus has the 6th dying multiverse contained in him who is viewed as a sibling to the "true" Eternity where he also stated that he can view infinite timelines due to his "true" vision. There's more from what i've seen, but it should at least be comparable to STTGL/Anti-Spiral

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While I do agree that LBG is OP...I personally think Kubik still has at least 1 feat that transcends LBG.

I mean, here Kubik showed capable of crushing the Beyonder and his whole uni/multiverse. Tho I'm open for debate/discussion...

@cosmic_reign said:

@kilgpmktra said:

@andromeda101 said:

@kilgpmktra said:

i guess it depends but I don't think Kubik is more powerful than Lifebringer Galactus as of late. Maybe i'm missing something?

I don't believe Lifebringer Galactus was ever revealed to be more powerful than a regular, moderately fed one or at least doesn't have the feats to indicate as so.

I guess it's more to due with Marvel expanding their cosmology. lifebringer galactus has the 6th dying multiverse contained in him who is viewed as a sibling to the "true" Eternity where he also stated that he can view infinite timelines due to his "true" vision. There's more from what i've seen, but it should at least be comparable to STTGL/Anti-Spiral

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While I do agree that LBG is OP...I personally think Kubik still has at least 1 feat that transcends LBG.

I mean, here Kubik showed capable of crushing the Beyonder and his whole uni/multiverse. Tho I'm open for debate/discussion...

Hmmm i'm not sure if this transcends what LBG has done, especially considering Kubik himself stated that the power of Post Retcon Molecule Man dwarfs his and beyonder's power on top of Molecule Man (post retcon) admitting to Beyonder that they are far Below the Likes of Eternity in that same issue. Multi Eternity wasn't even a thing back then who LBG is pretty comparable to nowadays. Not to mention, that entire conflict was pretty wonky anyways.

@kilgpmktra:

Ahhh...I see how these "retcons" can make this interesting. The main reason why I knew this was very open for debate. Nice rebuttal btw!

I can't even pretend to explain some of that "wonk"...heh

Anyways, I see it as Multi-Eternity has always existed, tho only recently we've gotten context of it's TRUE origin. LBG is described as a brother and servant/protector of (Multi)Eternity whom got beat by Beyonders, whom are the power source/origin of CC Beings(Kubik)...MM himself absorbed partial power from the Beyonders, and per LBG, can simply blink or snap LBG himself out of existence(Ultimates2 story arc).

So yeah, either way, I think T2 wins....MVP can be whoever, I suppose. 🙂