5D Imps who somehow paradoxically transcend Dimensions and are Omniversal with insane Plot Manipulation Hax vs Nigh Omnipotent Nazi Gods who transcend Dimensions with tons of insane Conceptual Hax

TEAM 1: Mr. Mxyzptlk and Batmite

TEAM 2: Reinhard and Mercurius

• According to Outerversal tiering which is dominant on VSBattles and Anime circles, Reinhard and Mercurius would stomp Mxy and Batmite due to their Taikyoku putting them infinitely x infinitely x infinitely times of ninety or eighty times above Outerversal/Omniversal (transcending dimensions) however the dimensions in Dies Irae/KKK are finite and the Multiverse there is only a baseline Multiverse. You can ignore than however and argue "scale doesn't matter" which is how Outerverse tiering works.


• However, using traditional Multiverse tiering which is the dominant method on CV, it would be Mxy and Batmite who would stomp since they destroyed the DC Omniverse which, using infinity is bigger than infinity arguments, is HILARIOUSLY much larger than the entire Dies Irae/KKK Cosmology because DC has Metaverse, Megaverse, Hypertime, God Sphere, Limbo, Monitor Sphere and much larger constructs that hilariously dwarf anything Rein or Merc has done by Multiversal tiering and is larger than the Throne. Which Mxy and Batmite destroyed casually and casually recreated.


• You can use the characters at their most powerful.

• Me? I don't have an opinion. I have no idea how DC vs Dies Irae power sets would interact.

So we have two opposing methods of tiering that have two opposite answers as to who would win.

I argued with many Comic nerds and Weebs, so how about I try to instigate a discussion between you all.

PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED

Dies Irae side or those who might support Rein and Merc:

@ovy7

@godren

@ecoblitz

@ezraarcher

DC side or those who might support Mxy or defy Outerversal tiering:

@rampagethefirst

@tifalockhart

@juliusz2006

People who are both Comic and VN fans who might become neutral:

@kilgpmktra

I can't believe nobody made a thread like this before.

I feel like both DC and DI/KKK fans are going to shit on me for this, but not before you all argue first. Lol

Sungsam marked this as the best answer

actually i think that team 1 might win because of WF mxy

i think that standard mxy is a high multiversall threat not an omniversall one because he got stomped bu guardian amped super-boy prime who by feats and scailling is a high multiversall threat and there is also a 6D space that standard mxy could not survive but strange visitor superman did = comics inconsistency i think that he can destroy the multivese and some realms of the sphere of gods

classic mxy and bat-mite seem to be more powerfull than their more current version since they had really ridiciolus combat feats they might be able to destroy hyper-time and the multiverse perhaps even limbo and the monitor sphere

WF mxy is an another story i dont think that he destroyed all of DC but i think that he destroyed the multiverse , limbo , all of the sphere of gods except for the realms of the endless and heaven , monitor sphere , hypertime , megaverse , bleed and the metaverses i consider him as being bellow the endless and the archangels

i give it to team 1 because of team WF mxy and the fact that dies irae cosmology seems to be far smaller than the DC one

im gonna have to admit that the choice wasnt easy to make

I honestly wonder how I got on the Dies Irae callbook lol.

On Topic. I truly don’t know. Taikyoku of 1>>>>>>Multiversal. And Rienhardt has 90.....

Wait, you're not a DI guy?

Lol, I'm so sorry, I saw you once said something about it and I assumed out of nothing.

Composite Team 1 should win although I'd like to know more about Team 2.

This is going to be wild

Ayyy we made it in the Dies Irae call book.

Regarding the fight, both teams are definetly at least multiversal. The Dies Irae team relies more on countless Hax though. For example Reinhards spear, the spear of destiny, is always faster than its opponent, will always one shot and will always hit. Furthermore if someone other than Reihard were to touch it or look at it, their minds, souls and existence would get destroyed the longer they are exposed to it. Team 2 has way more I can't mention them all unless I need to.

Another thing that makes this fight tricky for me, is that some Dies Irae statements in the Visual novel are a bit unclear. Mercurius is stated to control creation and the "cosmos". He has at least some multiversal power and manipulation but if you want to scale him higher I think depends on what you think some statements mean.

For me they are definetly way higher than Multiversal. Weaker characters than them were able to effect existence e.g. the main character Ren can effect creation in "all levels of existence".

Why was I tagged a thousand times?

@wollfmyth209: Sorry, mean't to tag someone else.

@sungsam: S'Alright.

^^^ That's what I want to know too, though it's probably a bug.

Anyway, adding a little more to what EzraArcher said. Fighting Reinhard is kinda tricky because you aren't only fighting him, but also his army of at least a couple millions, and because of Rein's Atziluth, each and everyone in that army is boosted to the level of Reinhard. Reinhard also can use the Briahs of the L.D.O., meaning he can do things like never missing an attack, one-shot conceptual destruction, being always faster than his opponent, creating a separate dimension around his opponent where he can absorb his power, the power to decompose anything (including the soul), and others.

For Mercurius, his ability, Acta est Fabula, basically makes him able to reset everything. The ability is pretty powerful and could be used even in the realm of the Throne where time doesn't exist, and Merc had used it against Hajun, successfully resisting creation and erasing any possibility for Hajun to exist. For reference, Hajun is so much stronger than the Hadou Gods (Rein, Merc, Ren, Marie), that he viewed them as nothing more than dust particles.

I don't know who wins this, I just wanted to add this here.

could someone give me more info on the nazi gods ? coz i want to make a good analysis and have good knowledge about both teams

hard to say however were not shure that mxy can destroy everything in DC in order to destroy the sphere of gods he would have to destroy dreaming a realm of the endleswho should be above mxy

as i mentioned many times when i talked whith sungsam i dont like the VS battles wiki tiering an i have reasons for it

this could end up in a stalemate since i ve seen that schneider and mercurius have good HAX and meanwhile mxy and batmite seem to have more abilities overall and better feats

my current vote is a stalemate unless somone is going to change my mind

Team one has plot manipulation, i would say that's more than enough.

Hearing VSbattle really makes me gag, i visited there a couple times and it was horrible.

This entire thread is actually a response to questioning of VSBattles, and to use this entire thread as a statement that people outside VSBattles, don't really care about their tiering system and to prove to everyone that VSBW's way is not the only way.

I don't have a position yet. I think its a solid fence for me.

But I heavily disagree with the idea that Rein and Merc would stomp just because they're rated as 1A and Mxy and Batmite are just High 2A. Arbitrary numbers. I honestly really think this is a good match up and still think that whoever won, it wouldn't be a stomp.

I knew that CV users take debating more seriously and would see it my way that the characters are roughly equal enough to settle a debate without sudden certainty, see? The Mxy fans on this thread are unsure of who would win mostly and vice versa. I like this.

dimensionall tiering works difrently in other verses feats , scailling , analization and comparsion of two verses s cosmologies are the best way of measuring for example in marvel there is a 6D structure called the 6th dimension the strongest being from that dimension was proof to 3D weapons and could barely destroy earth it was made of oil and it was defeated by a cowboy who used fire now does anyone have the balls to tell me that this 6D being is stronger than 5D mxy NO because it is astronomically weaker than mxy im not even going to comment on outerversalism since its much worse and is defied by of LT and oblivion

the VS wiki actually hates DC and marvel because they shit on their tiering harder than any other verse on that wiki (even tho other verses also shit on their logic) heck a few users even tried to erase marvel and DC from that wiki it sometimes gets really funny

well on comic vine no one has to use a dictated tiering system pepole can debate using rules that they want to use whether its power scailling , dimensional tiering etc. on VS battles wiki tiering is just feats and scailling pumped whith dimensionall and outerversall bullshit

i am a mxy fan but i like to avoid dimensionall tiering in this thread i think that mxy and batmite are overall stronger but schneider and mercurius have really good HAX like high-tier reseting or plot manipulation as far as i remember mxy and batmite dont have plot manipulation and that s the reason i vote for a stalemate

bump

Sounds like an endless battle, or Myx goes outside the comic book, kidnaps the authors, then rewrites both universes for craps and giggles . . .

Bumping the hell out of this.

From what I've seen so far, Mxy should casually stomp.

Vsbattles tiering is cancer.

indeed