Roronoa Zoro

vs

Cu Chulainn Alter

Location:

Rules:

• Standard abilities


• Start 10 metres apart


• In character but determined to win


• Victory via usual means

Bonus round - The teachers join in:

Mihawk joins Zoro

Scathach (Lancer/Assassin composite) joins Cu Alter

Callouts:

comment pls and thank

Lancer dies

@just_banter: Wassup mate. :]

Also I think Zoro will win.

Cu takes it.

He beat Scathach and took Karna's NP.

@lowlaville: Not much man, how you been?

Also I think Zoro will win.

Reasons?

What about the bonus round where Mihawk and Scathach join?

Their NP's mean they should win handily because Gae Bolg is broke along with Gate of Skye.

OP gets vaporized, Cu wins this. Dayung I'm gonna go rewatch all the fate battles now, they bring back such great memories

bump

@chaos239: If he took Karna’s np then he has planet level dura

@ecoblitz: He face tanked Karna's NP

However, Karna was at death's door at the time and it was a final attack type move so it might not have been a full power NP.

@just_banter: Haven’t heard of when being near death reduces NP efficiency. And I haven’t reached there in FGO😭😭😭 I need to start again.

@ecoblitz: Vasavi Shakti isn't Planet Level.

The only NPs that are (possibly) Planet level are Ea, CCC, Kiara's, Solomon's Anti-Humanity NP and maybe Enkidu's Enuma Elish.

@chaos239: Lol no. He destroyed Akillus Kosmos(I know I butchered the name) which literally has the world/gaia/earth as a concept and deploys it as a defense. Same way Achellis hitting you with it if you can tank said hit them you have planet level dura because he’s basically hitting you with a planet.

@ecoblitz: His NP is more of a conceptual thing that functions like Iskandar's NP. If you destroy enough of it then it crumbles chances are.

Because when you consider that NPs like Excalibur, Balmung and Clarent are atleast relative to VS despite them all capping at high mountain level, it doesn't seem right to assume Planet Level spears.

@chaos239: It’s not. It’s literally deploying the planet as a defense for you which is one of the reasons Achellis calls it an ultimate defense. And no, Karna wipes out the entire thing.

None of what you mentioned are relative in any way to VS. Karna’s hand swipes are mountain level. Seig has to boost himself with Frankenstien’s galvanism(which basically gave him an unending mana supply) and multiple command seals and still was almost getting over powered by Karna before Karna even used VS.

@ecoblitz: Which clearly doesn't make sense given that Karna's NP which is probably Country Level at best destroys it. Saying that he throws a Planet up as a shield is stupid because the fact Karna destroyed it, the fact VS has never been displayed near that level, the fact mountain level blast spam from Balmung stopped it all contradicts the idea of Planet level VS.

The only NP (hence Anti-World) that can bust a Planet is Ea with a few others maybe being able to do the same thing.

@chaos239: It’s range iscounty level, not it’s power. The “Anti” is basically it’s range. Only Achellis can use the shield to attack. Blamung is casually above mountain level when used by Seigfred, Sieg was outputting much more power than seigfred could do with balmung(i really don’t know why, seemed like bs but feats are feats) and that was before the boost from galvanism and the multiple CS.

And Herakles has casual mountain level strikes with a strength of A(or is it A+) and Karna has B+(I’m not 100% sure about this but it’s definitely B) along with Arjuna who is also mountain level with casual arrow shots so yes it supports it.

@ecoblitz: The fact that Servants are casually Mountain leve supports Planet level NPs?

What?

Also Achilles Shield only embodies his world, the world he lived in which would likely be Ancient Greece.

So instead of a Planet (which would be so utterly inconsistent it's hilarious) he likely throws up a Country instead which pushes Country Level Vasavi Shakti.

@chaos239: with hand swipes.....and the feat they’ve show support planet level? Yes.

it is the world Achilles lived in that was reproduced by Hephaestus into a miniature form in the shield, featuring swirling ocean currents on the outer circumference due to the sea god. It is said that "to oppose this shield is the same as making the world your opponent", allowing it to protect against Anti-Unit, Anti-Army, Anti-Fortress, Anti-Country, and Anti-Divine Noble Phantasms. With the shield's nature comes its sole weakness to Anti-World Noble Phantasms.

It can block anti country NP’s meaning it’s larger than a country inside the bounded field.

Utterly inconsistent how? He literally has no inconsistency and was pretty much the number 1 servant in his GW not needed to go all out against anyone bar Achellis due to how powerful he is.

@ecoblitz: Him and Herk are both Mountain Level with their strikes and thus anyone with A Rank strength scales.

Achilles Shield is obviously a reality Marble which means it isn't a literal Planet powered force.

We can tell Vasavi Shakti isn't Planet Level because Planet level belongs to Beasts, Solomon and Ea. A reminder that Beasts, Solomon and Ea would hand wave everything Karna could do and they all cap out a Planet level.

@chaos239: Achellis shield isn’t a reality marble. It’s a bounded field. Ea is enough to destroy the world 7 times over as mentioned in strange fake. So yes Ea>>>>>>every other NP

Still haven’t watched/read any of Fate, but I really want to.

That being said, I’ve never seen anything from them that suggests any of their characters don’t get blitzed by anyone on Zoro’s level or above.

Bump

Not familiar with Berserker Cu