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jhazzroucher
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- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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Suggest requirements/standards to be officially and only worthy to be called a "Music Legend"















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#1
Posted by

jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
- Show Bio


I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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Suggest requirements/standards to be officially and only worthy to be called a "Music Legend"















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#1
Posted by

jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
- Show Bio


I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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#1
Posted by

jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
- Show Bio


I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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#2
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jhazzroucher
(22891 posts)
- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.














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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.










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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.










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jhazzroucher
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- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.










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- 28 days, 8 hours ago
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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.









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I'm (I'm a Filipino) a huge fan of music that's why i know a lot of songs, I listen to almost any genre of music, sing, dance, write songs, read articles about music artists, update myself on music charts, etc.



And every now and then, a lot of people use the word "legend" on a lot of music artists.



Now I have a problem with this because:


1. Music awards don't seem to have requirements/standards when giving their highest/special awards to selected music artist/artists. They usually say "impact/influence/contribution to music industry" They don't even tell us if the highest/special awards scope is within the country only or is it a worldwide scope. Most probably country-wise only and if that is the case then they should add "in america / the usa" like "legend award of America" or something similar to that concept.



Let me give examples...



Grammys "Grammy Legend Award" recipients list:


1990 Andrew Lloyd Webber


1990 Liza Minnelli


1990 Smokey Robinson


1990 Willie Nelson


1991 Aretha Franklin


1991 Billy Joel


1991 Johnny Cash


1991 Quincy Jones


1992 Barbra Streisand


1993 Michael Jackson


1994 Curtis Mayfield


1994 Frank Sinatra


1998 Luciano Pavarotti


1999 Elton John


2003 Bee Gees



I don't even know most of them. And most of them aren't even in best-selling artists in America.



The Grammy also have "Salute To Industry Icons" award, a special awards given to only 5 music artists so far and the recipients ( Clive Davis, L. A. Reid, Lucian Grange, Jay-Z and Janet Jackson ) of it doesn't give us a clear reason why they have obtained the award.



Here's another example. BillBoard Music Awards


Check the link and go to the special awards page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


Especially on the Artist Achievement Award, Millenium Award and Icon Award. Check the recipients of each and it doesn't seem right, even if these special awards scope is only America.



World Music Awards Legend Award: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award


I actually like this particular awards more than the others because they base their decisions usually in a worldwide scope. But I don't agree with all of the recipients getting the legend award and I also think they have given the award a lot.



2. There are people who tend to use the word "legend" especially when a music artist dies. They emphasize the term to the music artist. For example in Prince's case when somebody said "the last living greatest performer" which Justin Bieber got a backlash for disagreeing. Justin Bieber was right though because, if it meant last living legend, we still have a living Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, a member of The Beatles, etc, who have sold way more records, succeeded more on concerts/tours and have more songs that charted better than Prince.



3. There are people who overrate music artists, calling them legends when I don't think they are. This is the case of Aretha Franklin. List on different sites would put her on top (or ranks better than other music artists who have achieved more and worldwide-wise) of the list for greatest voices, best /greatest female singers (rollingstones.com), etc. First and foremost, Aretha is I could say "unknown" in Asia. Second, since she's unknown in Asia then that means she really didn't have a song that became a hit worldwide. Third is, even if we're talking about music charts in America or record sales in America, she's not even of the best-selling artists of America.



4. Lastly, as time goes by, past singers eventually die and new singers sprout so the word "legend" is becoming a common word. And the term legend loses it's special and extraordinary meaning.




So I hope y'all getting my point and why we need requirements/standards to keep the "legend" title given only to those who are worthy to be called legends as well as to limit its usage, which means, only a few can really obtain the "legend" title.



If you have suggestions, please do answer the following cases first.



A. If a duo or group will be worthy of being called legends, can each member be worthy of being called a music legend too? - raising this up because each member didn't obtain extraordinary achievements individually, but as a group. Also, some members quit, new members come.



B. Should we have separate requirements/standards for different generations? -Raising this up because previous generations support music artists through buying physical albums and singles while the newer generation are more into buying digital albums and singles as well as streaming on streaming music services and watching videos on like YouTube.



C. Should music artist/artists know how to play instruments and/or write songs to worthy of being called a "music legend" - i am including this because there are people who dislike and do not appreciate music artists for not writing their own beat/music/songs.











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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.








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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.








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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.







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A. For duos, trios or groups, individual member should not be called a music legend because they individually cannot stand on their own. They are known as a group, not as individuals. Aside from that, some members of a certain group leave the group, some would add a new member/s so a member can't be called a music legend. We can just say, as an example: Paul Mccartney is part of the music legend/legendary music group, The Beatles. You can't say: Music legend Paul McCartney will attend the Grammys show this year.



B. There must be a separate requirement/s/standards for different generations and for this case, i have come up with 2 separate requirements/standards, one for earlier decades until the 90s and two for music artists from 200s til present.



C. Being able to play instruments or writing your own music should not be a requirement. It's a plus factor but not a requirement. My point, some writers can't make their songs popular because they just don't have it. While other music artists who don't write music has their way of making one songs click to a lot of people. They could be better at dealing with other people in the music industry that's or they just have better concepts thats why somebody else's music works well with them.



I'm tired. Ill update my post for my suggestions prolly tomorrow.









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