I just want to gauge Luffy's strength in relation to his crew. Say Luffy suddenly goes rogue, becomes a total psychopath and is completely bloodlusted. Can the rest of the crew, working together,bring him down? Assume crew has 20 minutes prep.

Round 1

Pre skip

Round 2

Post skip

Bonus Round

Luffy vs All other Straw Hats. Everyone bloodlusted. Fight to the death. Random encounter. Current versions.

They would defeat him. Luffy is not more powerful than his crew fighting together.

Usopp already kicked the ish out of Luffy pretty good. They've both improved in all areas since than. Franky also gave him a hard time. Zoro himself would probably fight Luffy to a stalemate. Based on past encounters I just can't picture Luffy possibly putting down his whole crew singlehandedly, not in any round.

Can the Crew call on the other pirates that wanted to follow Luffy after Dressrosa?

You know that Luffy was far from bloodlusted in any of those scenarios, right? Luffy oneshotted Usopp the moment he got serious, the fight with Franky was barely a skirmish, and Franky gave him trouble only due to home advantage, Luffy has never had a proper fight with Zoro, but their difference in physicals has been made clear plenty of times.

No

All they would need is Zoro and Robin tbh. Use robins Constriction abilities to slow luffy down while Zoro fucks him up. Pretty easy battle. Some may argue that Zoro could solo... but ill hold that opinion until I see him go full power

It's pretty clear for Zoro that he would fight him to a close stalemate then crew could just jump him, Luffy is defintely not stronger then his crew

Zoro by himself is close with an edge to Luffy. Add one or two others and its a mismatch for the Strawhats

People keep saying this, but when has Zoro ever had a serious fight with Luffy or shown similar feats? Just look at Enies Lobby and how much trouble Kaku gave him,while Luffy completely fodderised Blueno and beat Lucci. I think we both agree that Zoro would have lost in a millisecond against Lucci.

Thing is there has always been a considerable gap between the main big bad and his right hand man (Arlong and that Octopus dude, Crocodile and Mr 1, Enel and his priests, Doffy and his executives).

Shouldve clarified. Post timeskip

Well to be fair beating Lucci nearly killed him. He was put down twice during that fight, the second time requiring a rescue. I don't think Zoro would have lost that easily.

@decaf_wizard: How is Post Skip any different? Doffy>>Pica or any of his executives. And if we go by their strongest attacks, King Kong gun is obviously way above Daisen Sekkai.

Zoro and sanji should be able to put him down by themselves

Even though Zoro should logically be weaker than Luffy, I've read many times that he may be on his same level. I'd like to believe that.

Zoro + Sanji have been stated to = or even > Luffy.

Prep ain't gonna make a difference since Luffy is just too spontaneous, and they have plenty of "prep" in the sense that they know his weaknesses and his battle style. Usopp is the one who'd most benefit from prep but in 20 minutes he cannot really set much up + he's not enough to defeat him even with a month's prep.

The only thing troubling me is whether Zoro+Sanji continue to be capable of bringing Luffy down when fighting together when he's in gear 4...

Yea. That logic doesn't work because Zoro beat Pica with ease and Luffy would not have been beaten by Doffy if it was a straight up fight.

Also we havent seen Zoro use his Asura mode yet, which we know he has

Sure they can. both rounds.

Straw hats. Zoro by himself has a good chance if he goes all out tbh, though he hasn't gone all out near collapse like luffy has.

Zoro and Sanji are good enough to win, adding Nico and Franky really makes it a stomp.

yes they can.

Round 1: I'd probably given it to the StrawHat Crew

Round 2: it's basically Zoro + Sanji + Franky + Robin vs Luffy, the rest are getting the haki treatment. Sanji can't match up to hardened Armament haki, Robin likely can't stand up to Gear 2, and neither Zoro nor Franky can stand up to Gear 4.

blood-lusted Luffy defeats his entire crew both rounds.

Gear 2 seals it pre

Gear 4 seals it post

No they can't, Gear 4th blitzes and 20 minutes of prep isn't useful.

Luffy loses all rounds. however he would beat them all in a 1v1 including zoro.

Luffy would have trouble with just Zoro.

Um pre skip puffy already beat Lucci who was 4K in doriko, the closest to that was Kaku who was 2200, then jabra who was 2180, either of them get beaten tf down by luffy. Even if for some reason you take luffy’s strength down to 3000 doriko from lucci’s He still trashed either of them, a difference in 20 was enough to ensure Kaku always being triumphant against Jabra(or the majority most of the time) luffy is higher than that by at least 800. They aren’t dropping him.

I don't think Luffy beats Zoro and Sanji together honestly but I can't back it up since I haven't really seen much of either of them post time skip. Zoro destroyed Pica like he was fodder and Sanji dodged a bullet from Katakuri who sees into the future. Their best feats so far. Luffy has far more but atm it's hard to say.

pre skip loses quite badly and gets dogpiled

post skip dies before he can go G4 and even then i could still see him getting timed out in g4

luffy dies horribly against the whole fleet with zoro,sanji and law soloing together

So far nobody has the feats to tank a serious Gear 4 punch..hell even Gear 3 punch is pushing it.

If they aren't dumb and let him go gear 4, which he doesn't tend to use right of the bat anyway, they can defeat him quite easily. Zoro + Sanji is arguably enough.

Not current luffy. This might change if zoro actually gets some feats.