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Round 2- current comic versions for all, no Phoenix power for Jean grey.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
As for round 2 ill have to read up on the current versions to refresh my memory before giving an opinion.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
Oh yeah, and if Jean grey has phoenix force in R1 it's really just overkill. Team 1 will be distracted bringing hulk (the obvious threat) down, and Jean will annihilate them both.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Round 2- current comic versions for all, no Phoenix power for Jean grey.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
As for round 2 ill have to read up on the current versions to refresh my memory before giving an opinion.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
Oh yeah, and if Jean grey has phoenix force in R1 it's really just overkill. Team 1 will be distracted bringing hulk (the obvious threat) down, and Jean will annihilate them both.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Rules: No BFR, morals are on, and no bloodlust
*Fight takes place on an empty street in New York
Round 1- movie versions: MCU Scarlet Witch and X Men First Class Emma Frost vs MCU Hulk and X Men Apocalypse Jean Grey.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
As for round 2 ill have to read up on the current versions to refresh my memory before giving an opinion.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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Round 2- current comic versions for all, no Phoenix power for Jean grey.
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Round 2- current comic versions for all, no Phoenix power for Jean grey.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
As for round 2 ill have to read up on the current versions to refresh my memory before giving an opinion.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
As for round 2 ill have to read up on the current versions to refresh my memory before giving an opinion.
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Round 1 - I back hulk to solo due to Scarlet Witch's combat inexperience and morals stopping her using full force on hulk straight away. Unless im forgetting something spectacular that Emma Frost did in X Men First Class (feel free to remind me because I haven't watched it in a while), I don't know why she's here.
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@frombeyond: Honestly I think Wanda or Emma can shut hulks mind down but I am not supposed to give my own opinion lol. (I am talking about the first round)
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@marvelanddcfan24: in round 1 How does hulk solo 2 telepaths when he has no telepathy resistance as shown by Wanda. And Emma’s telepathy in the movies was instantaneous.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
Oh yeah, and if Jean grey has phoenix force in R1 it's really just overkill. Team 1 will be distracted bringing hulk (the obvious threat) down, and Jean will annihilate them both.
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@emmafrostxmen:
I agree they both COULD shut his mind down. But I think this is very dependent on the starting distance between them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think he could resist the TP for the split second it would take him to reach them, if the distance was 20/30 metres etc. And once he reaches them, it's going to be one shot KO on Emma (even in diamond form) and probably an accidental one shot kill on Wanda.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@frombeyond: Yea but with morals hulk won’t just kill both at the same time a telepath works at the speed of thought many many many many many times faster then hulk could get to them. I don’t disagree team 2 would win round 1 but hulk is not soloing.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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@emmafrostxmen:
That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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That is true, they do utilise their powers at the speed of thought. The problem we have here is that we don't know how long MCU hulk is able to resist their powers. In Age of Ultron, we didn't get to see Wanda initially taking over Hulk's mind, we only saw the mindless Hulk once she had managed to do it. So for all we know, Hulk's mind could be overrun instantly, or it could take long enough for Hulk to reach them. So yeah fair enough we have no way of decisively saying that Hulk could definitely solo, however with a small starting distance, I wouldn't consider it an impossibility.
More importantly though i'm glad we're in agreement that team 2 wins. As for round 2, I'd have to back team 1 if Jean doesn't have the phoenix force. @marvelanddcfan24 out of interest, what makes you say team 2 would win? Curious to see your reasoning.
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