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Juubito (Naruto) vs Hiei (YYH)















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EoS Hiei


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Setting: Makai Tournament


Distance Start: 50m



Who wins



















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#2
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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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#3
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Feats for Hiei?












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#4
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Juubito erases him












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#5
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Juubito stomps.












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#6
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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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#7
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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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#8
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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





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#11
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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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#12
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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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#13
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Hiei blitzed












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#14
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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





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the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





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so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





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now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



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Juubito stomps












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Juubito












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Juubito (Naruto) vs Hiei (YYH)















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#1
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EoS Hiei


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Juubito



Setting: Makai Tournament


Distance Start: 50m



Who wins



















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#2
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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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#3
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Feats for Hiei?












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#4
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Juubito erases him












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#5
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Juubito stomps.












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#6
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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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#7
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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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#8
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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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#9
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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?












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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





Well whatever it seems no one on this forum knows too much about YYH. Just gonna let this thread die












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#11
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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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#12
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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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#13
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Hiei blitzed












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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





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the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





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so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





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now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.












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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



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Juubito stomps












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Juubito












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EoS Hiei


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Juubito



Setting: Makai Tournament


Distance Start: 50m



Who wins



















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#2
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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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#3
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Feats for Hiei?












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Juubito erases him












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Juubito stomps.












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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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#7
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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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#9
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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?












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#10
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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


No Caption Provided





As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



No Caption Provided

Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





Well whatever it seems no one on this forum knows too much about YYH. Just gonna let this thread die












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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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Hiei blitzed












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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





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the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





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so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





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now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



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Juubito stomps












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Juubito












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DRAGON OF THE DARKNESS FLAME!!!!!










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EoS Hiei


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Setting: Makai Tournament


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Who wins



















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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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Feats for Hiei?












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Juubito erases him












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Juubito stomps.












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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?












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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





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#11
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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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#12
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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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#13
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Hiei blitzed












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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





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No Caption Provided


the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided



so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





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now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.












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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on













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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



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Juubito stomps












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Juubito












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DRAGON OF THE DARKNESS FLAME!!!!!










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EoS Hiei


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Setting: Makai Tournament


Distance Start: 50m



Who wins



















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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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Feats for Hiei?












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Juubito erases him












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Juubito stomps.












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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?












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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



No Caption Provided

Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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#13
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Hiei blitzed












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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided


the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided



so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided


and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided




now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided




beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.












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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on













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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



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Juubito












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EoS Hiei


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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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Feats for Hiei?












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Juubito erases him












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Juubito stomps.












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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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Hiei blitzed












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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





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the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





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so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





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now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on















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Juubito stomps












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Juubito












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DRAGON OF THE DARKNESS FLAME!!!!!










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EoS Hiei


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Setting: Makai Tournament


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Who wins



















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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.












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Feats for Hiei?












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Juubito erases him












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Juubito stomps.












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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.












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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.












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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".












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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?












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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



No Caption Provided

Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.












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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.












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Hiei blitzed












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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided


the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided



so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided


and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided




now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on













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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on















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Juubito stomps












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Juubito












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EoS Hiei


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Setting: Makai Tournament


Distance Start: 50m



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EoS Hiei


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EoS Hiei


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EoS Hiei


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Setting: Makai Tournament


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Who wins
















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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.








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#2
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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.








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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.







#2
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He has no way to seal him and has already tanked something similar to his main means of attack in Amaterasu. His only hope would be taking his head which isn't likely with TSB around.


Juubito handily.









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#3
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Feats for Hiei?








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Feats for Hiei?








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Feats for Hiei?







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Feats for Hiei?









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#4
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Juubito erases him








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Juubito erases him








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Juubito erases him







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Juubito erases him













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#5
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Juubito stomps.








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#5
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Juubito stomps.








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Juubito stomps.







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Juubito stomps.









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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.








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#6
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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.








#6
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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.







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Hiei can't handle TSOs. And Obito can tank DotDF long enough to tag him.









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#7
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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.








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#7
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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.








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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.







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Mismatch, Hiei can't put him down or even cause any lasting damage at all, nor can he defend against virtually anything Juubs decides to do.









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#8
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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".








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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".








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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".







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@flashingsabre: how? A regular sage infused rasengan put a dent into Obito. When did Obito show he can tank something like EoS Hiei's DotDF?


Amaterasu is not a very potent attack it's practically regular fire but just lasts, so they cannot be compared.


As for everyone else, how is this a mismatch? Yusuke and Sensui were casually destroying mountains with the mere shockwaves of their punches. And they were only low S class at that point. Yusuke later blitzed 5-10 stronger demons in one go, easily. Hiei and Yusuke EoS are more or less on the same level.


I see Juubito winning (mainly due to hax) but not "stomping".









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#9
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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?








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#9
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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?








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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?







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@ultimate702: When he no sold Sasuke's Kagutsuchi?









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#10
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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





Well whatever it seems no one on this forum knows too much about YYH. Just gonna let this thread die








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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





Well whatever it seems no one on this forum knows too much about YYH. Just gonna let this thread die








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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





Well whatever it seems no one on this forum knows too much about YYH. Just gonna let this thread die







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@flashingsabre: tf how does that even compare to DotDF? And besides it didn't work bc it was ninjutsu


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As seen there a natural energy infused rasengan worked


Hiei uses demon energy not spirit energy so Obito wouldn't be able to negate it



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Also physical strength alone can break TSB. Hiei is leagues stronger than Juubito in physical strength





Well whatever it seems no one on this forum knows too much about YYH. Just gonna let this thread die









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#11
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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.








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#11
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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.








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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.







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Not a stomp or mismatch. It's more like a 70/30 type deal in Obito's favour.









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#12
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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.








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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.








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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.







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not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.









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Hiei blitzed








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Hiei blitzed








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Hiei blitzed







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Hiei blitzed









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#14
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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





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the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





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so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





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now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.








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#14
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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided


the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided



so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
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and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided




now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.








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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided


the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided



so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided


and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided




now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.







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@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.




lmao. you mean togoro, the guy who got erased by a move that was barely building level in durability? Yusuku's spirit gun he used barely blew out a portion of the stadium, and not even a very large stadium at that.


maybe you forgot but Obito survived his own Massive TBB, you know the amped up version of the move that did this:





No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided


the second scan is of the various other battlefields and explosions, the second largest being from the combined all out effort of the 9tails and 8 tails, the small orange ones of the individual TBB from the tailed beasts prior, which are all mountain+ level:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided



so you can see that massive scale of this single attack. now imagine 4 of them, going off within an enclosed barrier, as what happened with Juubito when he created the chakra tree and spawned the 4 super TBB:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided
No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided


and in that last scan, you can see the border of the barrier they are in. this barrier:





No Caption ProvidedNo Caption Provided




now, look back to the post with the colored circles.


the crater in the red circle? thats the crater this barrier is in, so imagine the massive explosion you saw pictured, x4, but all going off inside the barrier in that crater, and you can imagine the amount of power this move had. it was supposed to literally wipe the battlefield of EVERY body.



and the TBB DOES have the power to damage ootsetsuki/tsb/juubijins.


obito and madara even mentioned that they had to be careful, as they could hurt the ten tails with the original one, as well as the ten tails AND juubidara also being damaged by TBB, as well as kaguya. (mentioned this, as I'm 99% sure you will come back at the whole "TSB negate chakra" point, which is true for normal chakra, but TBB incorporate a type of chakra that has been shown to bypass this.


and he tanked ~4 of them at once.



so again what does He have that will do more then this?


how would togoro, who got literally erased DBZ style by this:





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beat him? or have more durability? please explain :)



and people claim we dont know YYH on here.





@raziel2014 said:


not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.






@raziel2014 said:



not a stomp at all, hiei is vastly superior in speed and physical strength, while obito has hax you see how hax got madara right?


a rasengan infused with sage energy injured obito that thing wouldnt even budge togoro as a B class. while obito is immune to ninjutsu/charkra is more due to the a special status/shielding him from charkra/ninjutsu.







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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on









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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on









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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on








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@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


Well, there's this thing called potency.



Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by



Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.



carry on










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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on











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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on











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- 11 months, 30 days ago
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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on










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- 11 months, 30 days ago
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@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on








@ultimate702 said:


@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on






@ultimate702 said:



@chair-sama: I'm not in this (Juubito would stomp Toguro) but there are a few problems with your argument


First off, you're heavily underestimating Yusuke's spirit gun.


You are saying since Yusuke's AoE isn't big, the attack isn't powerful. Am I right?


no. its not all about AOE. which is why i used this specifically example. the fact that juubito basically took a AOE attack, and focused it all into a small area, thus taking the Area, out of the Area of Effect and still tanked it at the center of the blast. thus, making it morePotent.


Well, there's this thing called potency.


Just because Naruto's rasengan is small, doesn't mean it's only room level...


Naruto's rasengan can have island level potency and be the same size.


exactly...this guy was saying that obito got hit by a resengan and was hurt, thus making putting him on togoro's level of durability.


but you are literally proving my point, that his durability can still be pretty high, as naruto's resengan can vary in strength. i was simply showing a high end example of his possible durability, defending against an attack that basally damaged indescrimienetaly,



Yusuke's spirit gun at that point was at least Town+ or higher


It vaporized everything in it's path on the island kilometers on head, and kicked up the ocean as it passed by


kicking up the ocean isn't much of a feat. but i understand what you are saying.


Point number two, you claim that you know YYH here but seem to forget that toguro did not get erased by spirit gun...


i know. it was a blatant exaggeration. in the same way that obito was hurt so bad and almost killed by a single rasengan, as somebody is making it "seem" and that it wouldn't even budge toguro, the this spirit gun DID budge him. it budged him hard, and like you said, the resengan can vary in potency.


the resengan got thrown out there like it destroyed him. but obito literally got up and walked it off, much like togoro did.



he came back to the stadium then proceeded to power up to 100%. lol.


i know, I've read and watched the series. again. blatant exaggerating showing how this Lowballing logic gets people nowhere lmao.


saying that a sage mode resengan can hit obito, therefore anything that strong can beat him and he has the durability of toguro, is like saying that toguro was killed by this sprite gun, there fore he has not even building level durability, since all the blast did was break the wall of the stadium.


the logic behind the resengan example is faulty in every aspect.



1. it has sage chakra, the one thing needed to inflict wounds on the juubi jinchuriki.


it basicly bypassed all his durability. this would be applicable if Hiei had sage chakra. but he doesn't.


basicly like saying because batman with kryptonite can almost knock out superman, that anybody normally stronger can do it without the kryptonite. which just plainly is not true.


2. this is probably the lowest showing of Obito getting hit and hurt in this form.


3. the move didn't even actually hurt him. it was just the only move that actually connected with his physical body and effect him. if it only took 1-2 resengans to do him in, then the war would have been over a long time ago.



carry on










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