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MCU Bucky,Black Panther,Nebula and War Machine vs FOX Sentinels















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Round 1)One future sentinel(Colosus' powers only)


Round 2)Two future sentinels (No mutant's power)


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?













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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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MCU stomps. Vibranium claws and tank busting rounds












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


3- MCU Rhodey MvP












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.















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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


Bounus: Way outdated tech.










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MCU Bucky,Black Panther,Nebula and War Machine vs FOX Sentinels















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Round 1)One future sentinel(Colosus' powers only)


Round 2)Two future sentinels (No mutant's power)


Bonus Round:10 Old sentinels


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?













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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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MCU stomps. Vibranium claws and tank busting rounds












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.















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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


Bounus: Way outdated tech.










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Round 1)One future sentinel(Colosus' powers only)


Round 2)Two future sentinels (No mutant's power)


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.















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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?













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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.















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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.















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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.












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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.












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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit












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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.















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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film















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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.












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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.












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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


3- MCU Rhodey MvP












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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.












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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.















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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.












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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.








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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.








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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.







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Haven't seen X-Men in a while, like years -- but I remember the stupid timeline weird confusing stuff they did, They could beat round 1 dependant on what Colossus it is, DP1-2 Colossus or X-Men Colossus? @granitevision Unsure mainly due to the massive height difference though. WM is the MVP regardless though for all rounds.









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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.








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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.








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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.







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The colossus one loses.


And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


The third time sentinels lose. War machine could solo. So could BP.









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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?









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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?









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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?








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@richubs: And are the ones without any powers allowed to adapt? Because if they can then the adapt to vibranium and its an easy win.


They can only adapt for mutant's powers.


And even without powers they are much stronger than war machine.


The colossus one loses.


Why?














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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.








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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.








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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.







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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.









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MCU stomps. Vibranium claws and tank busting rounds








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MCU stomps. Vibranium claws and tank busting rounds








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MCU stomps. Vibranium claws and tank busting rounds







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MCU stomps. Vibranium claws and tank busting rounds









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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit








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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit








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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit







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@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.




Colossus is same as in Deadpool


Not durable?Lol.They can drill though bunker like though butter.They are much more durable than War Machine.They can heat BP and he dies inside the suit





@richubs said:


@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.






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@granitevision: The collosus one loses because Collosus isn't really very impressive before DP. They basically turned into the material he was made of and got stronger. BP could probably but through it while the others keep the sentinels busy.


They might be stronger but they're not durable. They were brought down by lightning and the plane explosion etc. Warmachine can create bigger explosions.


Also Black Panther can just rip them apart. The Sentinels have no way of getting through the vibranium unless they adapt to it.


And I think you're right they cannot adapt to vibranium that was kind of a stupid thing to say which is why I'd say they lose round 2.










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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.








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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.








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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.







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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.









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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.











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@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.











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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.










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@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.








@richubs said:


@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.






@richubs said:



@granitevision: And yet they were destroyed by the plane blowing up and Bishop's energy gun.


And what?That is a good feat for Bishop not a bad feat for sentinel.You know that plane had atomic reactor as a power source?


I never claimed they're less durable than War Machine I said that War Machine can destroy them. They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying. And heating BP suit would take time plus it won't be easy to tag the guy. If BP gets on top once he tears the head apart. Nebula and Bucky are perfect distractions for this.


If the collosus is the same one as Deadpool things might change. He was fighting Juggernaut and even though his tooth fell off I don't think he's going down very easily and nothing Warmachine has should hurt him. I don't think anyone other than BP can do anything to this sentinel. They'll have to be very careful and distract it carefully to give BP an opening. Otherwise team loses.










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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)








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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)








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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)







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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)









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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film











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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film











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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film










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@richubs said:


@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film








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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film






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@granitevision: So I watched the scene again. The energy attacks Bishop shot out were from the lighting he absorbed. Basically he was just shooting out a fraction of what Storm gave him. Not as impressive as one would think.


Do you know how much energy contains lightning?It is incredible amount of energy in it


And if you watch again then when Magneto is taking the plane out Tobe blown up he is tearing pieces of metal from the plane and destroying the Sentinels from those pieces.


Magneto is one of the most powerful mutants.He could threw that pieces with tremendous force.Remember how he killed Shaw with a coin?I doubt that IRL coin can fly though something as durable as human's skull and do not get deformed


You have to admit that isn't enough to take on missiles from War Machine.


WM missle may damage it,but Sentinel can also damage war machine.It can fire super hot beam that can melt steel like butter


(And I don't think Bishop actually destroyed a sentinel. He couldn't do it after Storm died)


He shoot sentinels at least three times during that film










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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.








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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.








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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.







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@richubs: They cannot really tag Rhodey since he is flying.


Why?They also can fly fast.









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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.








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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.








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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.







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@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.


I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.









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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


3- MCU Rhodey MvP








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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


3- MCU Rhodey MvP








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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


3- MCU Rhodey MvP







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1. Sentinel


2- Sentinel ?


3- MCU Rhodey MvP









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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@richubs said:


@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@richubs said:



@granitevision: I understand that lightning is insanely powerful the lightning storm used didn't seem as powerful because actual lightning is also very hot. Like it raises the temperature of the air around it to 5 times the sun's surface. A continuous lightning would get the air even hotter which it didn't which is why I don't think the lightning is as powerful.



Superman's heatvision is also as hot as surface of the sun,but it do not make air hot like you said.These are films.Same about killian and vision


She used natural lightning from the sky.Why should not it be as powerful as real one?



I understand that Magneto is insanely powerful but even if he propelled them at missile speeds Rhodey is basically shooting put missiles and then flames. As for the coin feat I agree but here's the thing. Magneto could've simply made sure that the coin isn't getting deformed by controlling the coin separately. Otherwise there isn't any reason for the coin to not get deformed. And keeping a coin from getting deformed isn't really very impressive.


He could also kept that pieces from deforming.


I never said that they cannot hurt Warmachine but tagging him isn't very easy. I don't think they can actually fly. The sentinels couldn't really fly on WM's level.


They can fly pretty fast.And the fact that Rhodey can fly at supersonic speed,doe not mean that his combat speed is also supersonic.


Warmachine is too fast for them with auto aim. It's too hard to tag him. Before he gets tagged he destroys them.


Yeah I remember he shot the sentinels but when later on he shot one of them they were just staggered, not destroyed. I think it's safe to say the first three weren't destroyed either.


Here is the damage that Bishop can do to them:


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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.








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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.








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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.







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@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor lol.









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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.











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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.











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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.










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@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.








@richubs said:


@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.






@richubs said:



@granitevision: Keeping that pieces from deformung would serve no purpose since he isn't trying to impale those guys. Yeah I know WM doesn't have combat feats on supersonic level but he has feats similar to Tony and that already makes him pretty fast.


Im not sayin that WM can not damage them,but they also can damage him as well+they are physically stronger


Plus he has a whole team to distract him with one of them in an indestructible suit.


He has enough time to destroy them.


See in either of those Bishop couldn't really hurt them. I don't think we should argue on this because practically this is a point in your favor


lol.


But he damaged them.










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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.








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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.








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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.







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@granitevision: I never said they cannot. But in this specific battle WM has no reason to be tagged specially when he has a whole team with him. Which is why I feel he can destroy them with out any issues. If he was alone it'd be significantly harder since they'll be focused on him.


Yeah Bishop did but he couldn't really put them down. A pretty good feat in itself nonetheless.









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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


Bounus: Way outdated tech.








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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


Bounus: Way outdated tech.








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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


Bounus: Way outdated tech.







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Team all rounds


The first 1 has some durability now but can be out overtaken by the numbers of its opponent. Plus War Machine Can try to throw it into a body of water. (Self sacrifice or with enough fire power to send it back)


Round 2 Is going to be easier even thought there is 2 of them they aren't as durable so they aren't going to put up much of a fight. The sentinels were so formidable because there ability to adapt and without that ability i don't see what makes them so special.


Bounus: Way outdated tech.









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