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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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#9
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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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#1
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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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#2
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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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#3
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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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#4
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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle












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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four












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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.












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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone












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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge














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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.












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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.












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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men













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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)












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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge










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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle








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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle








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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle







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•Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


•Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge


#Rules:


•Everyone current versions


•Morals on


Round One:


- Individual battles


Round Two:


-Team battle









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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four








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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four








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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four







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Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


-This round goes to Fantastic Four


Jean vs Sue


-Probably Sue


Thing vs Colossus


-Ben Wreaks


Johnny vs Bobby


-Probably Human Torch


Doom Vs Magneto


-This happened Before


Crystal vs Storm


-Crystal is seriously outclassed


Rouge vs She hulk


-Rouge Stomps


The winner is Fantastic Four









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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.








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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.








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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.







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Current versions of Thing and Torch are depowered guys while Reed supposedly holds power of Beyonders tho.









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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone








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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone








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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone







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@toratorn: Okaayyy I meant standard power levels for everyone













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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge










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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge










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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge









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@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge







@hiddenstorm: okay then


Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge






@hiddenstorm: okay then



Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine


•Invisible Woman (Force powers only) vs Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing vs Colossus


•Human Torch vs Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


•Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) vs Magneto no idea


•Crystal vs Storm


•She Hulk vs Rouge










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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.








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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.








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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.







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Round 1: •Mister Fantastic vs Wolverine- Wolvie, no contest.


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- Difficult to surmise. Though Sue has blocked Jeans tk before, Jean has also done the same against Sues shields when Sue went on the offense one time when she was turned into a hound.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD428wQdB8XMbttaN7WFTx9SmgA5EmaUC4wLt7_kPH3VxjiKuuS20E-GCZFh7xflx5_Sh5vsIcUnZtw-bvL17i-TuXQwES2vMxRzIdeZ0fDEWRb9hJvB1MSDC996hIpZPrzIznO-ARx8iW/s1600/fight0156-c.jpg


Apparently, in this fight, obviously taking place after Invisible Woman negated Jeans telekinesis that one time, Jean is trying not to hurt Sue, whereas Sue is easily bloodlusted. Therefore, I am gonna conclude on a close fight, Jean could take this, Assuming she doesn’t hold back.


•Thing vs Colossus- Colossus in an even closer fight. I am going on the organic steel is stronger than rock excuse.


•Human Torch vs Iceman- This is a tough fight. It all depends on whether Johnny goes full supernova or not. Johnny in general can probably outlast Bobby since he has never had qualms about using his full strength vs Bobby’s reluctance and lack of imagination. That said, if Johnny doesn’t use his full powers, Iceman will extinguish him before he gets a chance to negate Iceman and tire him.


So, under the right conditions, Johnny.


•Dr. Doom vs Magneto- Hail DOOM!!!


•Crystal vs Storm- Storms powers work on a grander scale.


•She-Hulk vs Rogue- Rogues already solo’d a team of Avengers with She-Hulk in its roster.


http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/xmenlegacy267-2.jpg


Multiple times in fact.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102816/2026311-uxann7_vsshehulk.jpg


https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/uncanny-x-men-annual-7-kitty-pryde-beats-iron-man.jpg


Round 2: Jean alone has solo’d Most of them one-on-one.


Jean vs Mister Fantastic (and everyone else in the room included Captain America, Hercules, and Jarvis. They may not have been fighting her, in fact, she was lifting them subconsciously, but she immobilized them easily when she decided they were threats to her)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/nb9VKdTDQCLxBeBkNUEZTqjTSu0rRJbif11rC-F4CI5wgQIFXK5yj7zZuNJVK0-lcOCsQBuHVcQ=s1600


Jean vs She-Hulk- Jean completely immobilizes She-Hulk in x-factor 32


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NLK0VxXwavMSDFNlgU09EqjoG5uA9RbHt0aQ6RNCYqUyHvZ8qAN-Vu-jOolHL6mKIbhpLtR79GLJ=s1600


•Jean Grey vs Thing- Let’s see who wins in this game of tug-a-War In contest of champions 2 Issue 4 (that’s not Phoenix, she merely took the name)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9H5Xp52lk0/VyQSvaToDEI/AAAAAAAAF54/hQXDEjFFR0YahP2eFav_EnByVSIC6yxAwCCo/s1600/RCO012.jpg


Add Rogues absorbing abilities, which have been instrumental in defeating entire teams and this gets easier and easier.


Then Icemans omega level powers can affect a wide area.


Let’s not even debate on what Storm contributes here. Even Johnny probably won’t handle feats like this. (Granted, he did have a chance at beating Storm in Contest of Champions, but threw the match, not wishing to go Supernova and kill her, but Storm wasn’t exactly at her best from what Torch was describing in the match. He mentioned how her concentration was on offense, yet we all know Storm can deliver killing blows offensively in much easier capacities, so the fact that he could still think coherently and make a decision shows she was holding back)


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387565-5161242424-27040.jpg


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e908466b996ff3d437f8e10912a2f78


Or this


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-944bfcaab2cc7a2fbc27812f164ad25a


Or this


http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10671240_299103063606835_529751906149221137_n.jpg


Or this


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4322862-8765305874-9d545.jpg


And let’s not forget that currently, Storm has access to Stormcaster


https://www.bleedingcool.com/?attachment_id=853946


Which means she is about Thor levels at that point


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756621-rco017_1469937445.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52828/5756612-42.jpg


Basically, X-Men win round two with ease.


Edit: I guess Nevermind in Stormcaster, but note that that is Storms current level of power.









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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.








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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.








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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.







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@hiddenstorm: Oh standard. Well, never mind on Stormcaster.









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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men









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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men









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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men








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Mister Fantastic > Wolverine


Invisible Woman (Force powers only) < Jean Grey (Tk only, No Phoenix)


Thing < Colossus


Human Torch > Iceman (Pre-Omega feats only)


Doctor Doom (Standard gear, and no magic) > Magneto


Crystal < Storm


She Hulk < Rouge


Round 1: X-men


Team battle


Round 2: X-men










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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)








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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)








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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)







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@pyrofn: Thnx for these links I had no idea some of those fights actually happened but I still think Sue can take Jean due to stronger shields (which is what it comes down to)









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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge








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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge








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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge







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I think this would be a pretty even Match.


Mister Fantastic


•Invisible Woman vs Jean Grey- VERY HARD to tell this could be a stalemate. Neither combatants would have the upper hand on each other.


Colossus


•Human Torch


Dr. Doom


•Storm


Rouge









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