- Orochimaru has full knowledge of itachi and his abilities ( I believe the only reason why itachi beat orochimaru 2x was because of his surprise hax since orochimaru underestimated itachi )

- Itachi and Orochimaru prime full health

- 1km away from each other battlefield in an endless forest

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Itachi stomps him again.

The gap in power is not close and that was made clear twice. It’s not like Orochimaru has anything in his arsenal that could counter the MS abilities of an Uchiha.

@originalcaptain: Well, isn't war arc kakashi like on itachi's level? And people argue that orochimaru still > war arc kakashi. People seem to forget that orochimaru is on jiraiya's level just because of his severe downplay by being surprised haxed by itachi.

Not only that, he was full of confidence against KN4 Naruto whilst in his weakened state who was giving 6 paths pain trouble

@eddz99:

No War arc Kakashi is not Itachi level. He is nowhere near that. Orochimaru Vs War Arc Kakashi is a debatable fight. There is a reason why Orochimaru went for Sasukes body and not Itachis anymore even after he had knowledge and got beat by a 13 year old Itachi. He has no chance against him as an adult.

And Jiraiya is not Itachi level either just because of some Kisame statements in naruto classic. Watch SethTheProgrammers video „Itachi vs Jiraiya“ he addresses every point.

Orochimaru probably based on the fact that he's a sannnin.

R1 Itachi barely

R2 Could go either way.. if Oro has full knowledge of Itachi in this round im going with Oro.

R3 Itachi

Irrelevant when Orochimaru determined that Itachi was stronger than him based on that confrontation anyway.

Orochimaru has full knowledge of itachi and his abilities

Orochimaru didn't know about the Totsuka when he admitted inferiority to Itachi. If you're gonna bring up "knowledge" as an excuse it works against Orochimaru.

@originalcaptain: Itachi stomps Orochimaru.

And Kakashi (war arch) beats Itachi.

Maybe after our KCM vs Itachi debate we can do Kakashi vs Itachi.

@keychain:

Stopping tagging me. Focus on the CaV, finish your post and then come back.

We don’t have to do mismatches. Kakashi is fodder.

Itachi stomps again lmao.

@originalcaptain: I'm foucsed on the CaV don't worry, I'll tag you if I want.

Itachi is the Fodder here, dude is barely a low high tier character, like I said after you lose the first one we can do a second.

@keychain:

Itachi is no high tier. He is mid tier. You kept saying, I am supposedly wanking him ? And yet you are ranking him higher than I do. Makes sense. You are taking days for a opener. I will post my opener in the same day. Don’t start new shit when you can’t even finish what you started initially.

Fucking pussy. Stfu now & get to work.

Itachi seals him again. Orochimaru won't be able to prepare for the Totsuka Blade. Also, he has no jutsu that can bypass Susanoo.

@originalcaptain:

I didn't start anything new, I said after we finish. Lmao.

Itachi is like the lowest High tier Character in Naruto, and that's only due to his Susanoo, without it would get wrecked left and right. Such a shame Yata mirror can't stop Kamui he might have had a chance at beating Kakashi.

@keychain:

I didn't start anything new, I said after we finish. Lmao.

Are you mentally challenged ? You just made an argument in the same post you wrote this. "Such a shame Yata mirror can't stop Kamui he might have had a chance at beating Kakashi."
You are starting new shit.

Why don't you join discord real quick so we can discuss this in voice chat ? We will finish the Itachi Vs KCM Naruto & Kakashi debate in on go, so I don't have to wait another decade for your ass to get his opener ready. Your keyboard warrior attitiude is obnoxious.

@originalcaptain:

But I didn't start a new CaV did I? You're comprehension skills are subpar.

I'm posting it today, stop crying. In such a rush to lose.

Lmao Itachi can't beat KCM Naruto or Kakashi 1v1 you think he can beat both 2v1 Lmao I can just add Kakashi to the CaV and still have it up today.

@keychain:

But I didn't start a new CaV did I? You're comprehension skills are subpar.

Again. Are you mentally challenged ? You obviously started new shit in this thread even tho you didin't even finish the opener in our CaV. Nobody was talking about a new CaV you idiot.

I'm posting it today, stop crying. In such a rush to lose.

concession accepted. When you finally man up and grow some balls, tell me.

Lmao Itachi can't beat KCM Naruto or Kakashi 1v1 you think he can beat both? Lmao I can just Kakashi to the CaV and still have it up today.

No I was talking about two seperate debates that we could finish in VC in one go.

Itachi destroyed Orochimaru's strongest form (8 headed hydra thing) when he was half blind and literally dying.

Oro gets cucked by (healthy) Itachi for a third time assuming he doesn't have any new Boruto feats.

Itachi 9/10

@originalcaptain: lmao you call me challenged... The go on to say "I'm posting tonight" is a concession.

Regardless after I beat that ass in this CaV you can man up and do another or you can concede.

@keychain:

lmao you call me challenged... The go on to say "I'm posting tonight" is a concession.

I couldn't care less about what you said. You were also implying that your opener would be up after half a day after you figure out of his site works and look now. Nothing. You are a joke.

Regardless after I beat that ass in this CaV you can man up and do another or you can concede.

Keep feeding your ego. When we are done with this CaV. Let's the settle the Kakashi one on discord. Let's see how much shit you talk then ..

@originalcaptain:

Lmao I said give me half a day to figure out how this website works, the post isn't going to magically appear after I figure out this site works, I have to create it after that.

Why are you so scared of of debating in front of random people on this site? Why would I join your discord with your friends so they all just wank you and say you won? Nah I'd rather an unbaised voting pool. It's nice to know you're scared of an even playing field though.

@keychain:

Why are you so scared of of debating in front of random people on this site? Why would I join your discord with your friends so they all just wank you and say you won? Nah I'd rather an unbaised voting pool. It's nice to know you're scared of an even playing field though.

You can add all of your friends & people of the vine can join too. No problem. You are just another Keyboard warrior that is too scared to talk. Thats the only problem. We can also join a public discord server. Also no problem. Pick one for the next one.

It's nice to know you're scared of an even playing field though.

That makes no sense, because I clearly just said that we can discuss the Kakashi one, once we are done with our CaV. You seem to have confidence issues, thats why you have to ride your own dick 24/7. Stop being your own hype man and get your shit done.

"Lmao"

@originalcaptain:

"Keyboard warrior" "confidence issues"

You do realize you're the one with the mental complex of a 12 year old fortnite player, you get butthurt and instantly jump to the "Don't tag me!" And the "Mentally challenged" insults.

Sure we can do Itachi vs Kakashi on Discord no problem. I'm not the one with a promblem you are, allways getting butthurt over nothing. I'll just post the link on a thread here and anyone can join.

@keychain:

You do realize you're the one with the mental complex of a 12 year old fortnite player, you get butthurt and instantly jump to the "Don't tag me!" And the "Mentally challenged" insults.

That is not meant to be an insult. I am seriously concerned about your health. You don't seem to be alright. And the reason why I said don't tag me is, because you are starting a new debate even tho you couldn't even finish your first one.

Sure we can do Itachi vs Kakashi on Discord no problem. I'm not the one with a promblem you are, allways getting butthurt over nothing. I'll just post the link on a thread here and anyone can join.

Sweet. Just don't run when the time comes.

@originalcaptain:

No, you're just insucure. That's all. It was a suggestion, and you got butthurt about it all you had to do was say "nah"... But you got upset over nothing and made a big deal over Nothing.

I won't, it's not like it's a hard matchup. Not when Kakashi knows all he needs to know about Itachi.

@keychain:

No, you're just insucure. That's all. It was a suggestion, and you got butthurt about it all you had to do was say "nah"... But you got upset over nothing and made a big deal over Nothing.

How am I insecure when I am the one challenging you to solve this debate in an instant ? I mean I even offered you to get more personal and join voice chat. May it be a public server or a one in which your friends can join too. If anything that just means that you are a pussy. And no that is no insult either. Thats just how it is.

I won't, it's not like it's a hard matchup. Not when Kakashi knows all he needs to know about Itachi.

Alright. We'll see about that once you finally get your opener done. Hopefully in this year.

@originalcaptain:

Again proving you're insucure, I didn't want to do a VC debate because I thought it was a private lobby with just who you select, I agreed when it was public. Look at my first post here, I agreed with you about the topic, then said I disagreed about Kakashi vs Itachi, I then said "if you want" we can debate that too... You then got instantly upset.....Over nothing, that's pure insecurity.

What part of "tonight" can't you comprehend besides we started this Saturday and it'll be up Monday. 2 days holy shit what a year.

@originalcaptain: I'm sure you're a cool dude, don't take anything by that. We're all insucure one way or another. I'll I did was make a friendly suggestion and you went off.

Just calm down and let's have a civil debate, after that we can do the other in Discord if you want, or we don't have to do it. That's all up to you.

Still Itachi, will always be Itachi unless you give Orochimaru prep time for Edo Tensei.

still Itachi