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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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@the_badman: I feel like it's trolling, but if it isn't... I worry, sometimes, Bads, I really do.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
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Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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@the_badman: I feel like it's trolling, but if it isn't... I worry, sometimes, Bads, I really do.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
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Magik Vs Black Bolt
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
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Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
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Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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Standard Gear/Equipment
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
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@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
lol no,this is not a tp only battle, mmh literally one shots her.plus im pretty sure mmh has feats that would allow him to hang around jean for a bit.
@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
@pyrofn said:
•Wonder Woman vs Shazam- Wonder Woman. Better skill and has dealt with beings like Shazam before.
•Scarlet Witch vs Hulk- Scarlet Witch so long as she doesn’t hold back.
•Zatanna vs Dr.Strange- Hard to guess, but I’ll go with Strange????
•Emma Frost vs Braniac- Not entirely sure about how powerful Braniacs telepathy is. I will call a draw until I get more info.
•Jean Grey vs Martian Manhunter- Jean Grey based on her power and skill along with her reputation of doing the impossible for even telepaths like Xavier.
•Poison Ivy vs Namor- Namor is not getting passed Ivy’s looks.
•Black widow vs Nightwing- I’ll back Nightwing for his training with the Batman.
•Black Canary vs Batman- Come on, so I need to answer this one?
•Mantis vs Karate Kid- Don’t know which Mantis you mean, but I’m pretty sure either way, Manyis wins.
•Storm vs Thor- Thor. Storm has a better chance with Stormcaster, but I’m pretty sure Thor wins.
•Elektra vs Daredevil- If we don’t go with PIS and go with Elektra at her best, than I suspect she wins do to her psionic powers.
•Magik vs Black Bolt- Magik. I back Magik.
•Kitty Pryde vs Wolverine- Draw. Wolvie can’t touch her and she won’t kill him. If she ever does, she wins via posing his brain from his head. Can’t see her doing that, so it remains a draw.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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@emmafrostxmen: IDK or care about or like current. Current is always awful and inferior to classic. So I'll answer as best I know, meaning regarding classic. To Heck with everything else I say.
1. Shazam IIRC is the name of the wizard who gave Captain Marvel his powers. But if by that you mean him and not the wizard it's nowhere near close. Wonder Woman loses badly.
2. From what little I know of the Scarlet Witch she'd be swatted like a gnat. If the Hulk sneezed it would be like those old films showing a nuclear explosion's effects against trees and buildings up close where the branches, panels, etc are being blown off, except it would be all her flesh from her skeleton.
3. If Doctor Strange gets a spell off before Zatanna can talk he'll win. If she manages to talk he'd lose.
4. I don't know either very well. I think this might depend on whether machines or at least Brainiac in particular are susceptible telepathy and what the effective range of the White Queen's power is.
5. The Martian Manhunter, easily. I'm not sure whose telepathy is stronger but he has most powers Superman does and IIRC equal (identical strength, speed, durability and eye lasers, speed only a hair's breadth beneath the Flash and two hairs slower than a photon).
6. Namor's abnormal biology will protect him from her spores. Then it's just over for her.
7. Nightwing. Neither is really impressive IIRC but I guess he'd win.
8. If she manages to hit him with her sonic scream she'll win. If not he'll bust her up. Especially if he gets the drop on her.
9. The Karate Kid. More impressive.
10. Is this a joke? Thor's weather powers make hers seem inconsequential, not to mention everything else he can do.
11. Daredevil. All I know of the comic book version of Elektra (and I never saw that movie, which looked like crud from what I could tell) is that she totaled Catwoman in DC VS Marvel, but that was based on a vote and the same series had Lobo lose to Wolverine.
12. I have no idea who Magik is.
13. If he can get at her before she goes intangible or while she's not intangible she dies. If she becomes intangible she can just put her hand in his head like the then-secretly evil alternate dimension version of the Vision immobilized the Juggernaut in that story arc where Mentallo uses a machine amplifying his powers to hypnotize the Merged/Professor version of the Hulk into working for the Red Skull.
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This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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@robertmiles1:
This is my thread so I am not saying who wins.
Shazam is Captain Marvels new name, and it has been for a while. Also Wonder Woman has beaten him before so it is definitely a close battle.
Scarlet witches magic can affect the hulk. And it was stated that if tried hard enough it possible for her to recreate her house of m feat(when she said no more mutants). Also she can teleport and has many more abilities thanks to her magic.
I agree with Doctor Strange vs Zatanna
Tbh idk how powerful brainiac’s telepathy is either so I have no idea who wins.
I agree with Martian manhunter vs Jean grey too as long as Jean doesn’t have the Phoenix.
I know you don’t care about the characters currently but at the moment in the comics ivy’s range with her plant manipulation is planetary. She is also able to control the plants within people.
Idk who wins nightwing vs black widow. But black widow’s feat stalemating Elektra while injured is a very good feat. Although is is fairly recent.
Black canary has martial arts that are also stated to be potentially better than Batman’s by Oracle.
Idk that much about karate kid besides that he is a good martial artist so I am unsure if he beats mantis.
Personally overall I think storms weather manipulation is better, but Thor’s lightning is more powerful and his winds are also stronger.
Daredevil and Elektra are always pretty even in a fight. So it’s probably close
Magik is a mutant teleporter that is also a sorceress and the current sorceress supreme of her dimension limbo.
Idk who wins the last one. Might be a stalemate.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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Wonder Woman Vs Shazam - A weaker and holding back WW already stalemated a mind-controlled Billy.
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk - Wanda at her best would win but in a random encounter, Hulk.
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange - More powerful and experienced.
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac - Brainiac stomps.
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter - Jonn easily.
Poison Ivy Vs Namor - No idea.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing - Dick stomps.
Black Canary Vs Batman - Assuming she uses her cry, Dinah wins. H2H she loses of course.
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid - Not familiar with Marvel Mantis.
Storm Vs Thor - Thor stomps, that is unless she shuts down his brain like she never does.
Elektra Vs Daredevil - Just because they fought evenly doesn't mean they're equals.
Magik Vs Black Bolt - Magik wins coz I like her she's more versatile and can BFR him.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine - WWH treatment ftw.
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@the_living_tribunal_24: Didn’t say it would be an easy battle against Jean. Only that she would win. I’m not gonna instantly assume Martian Manhunter will instantly do anything other than telepathy die to how much faster telepathy is than any other ability aside from speedblitIng give or take depending on who it is. Unless your telling me speed-blitzing is Manhunters bread and butter, I’m gonna assume Jeans will hold him in telepathic combat. The other chance Jean use telekinesis, it would only prolong the battle, forcing her to switch strategy to telepathy.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx: Jeans connection to the Phoenix is still present as if Avengers #6, But she has broken off all physical connection to the Phoenix and the poster specified not to bring Phoenix into this. Therefore, Jean won’t be tapping into the Phoenix anytime soon.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
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@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
Wow. This is the single most logical and reasonable post I've ever read. Philosophers like Aristotle, Pythagorus etc. would cry in envy. I advance nominate you for the HOF.
@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
@sonofmarx said:
The bigotry and patriarchy I tell you
Scarlet witch says "No more hulk" and presto no more abusive angry wife beaters born of abusive childhoods
Zatanna says "Ied" and no more cultural appropriation for ol Stephen
Jean Grey is the Phoenix she is literally Martians Kryptonite (fire)
Black Widow vs Dick is great as it might finally force the nubile ganymede out of the closet after he becomes the first person to scream "Daddy Brucie!" in a wrestling match with Nat
Storm, an African Goddess whose speciality is thunder one shots the cowardly blonde with his compensation hammer. Yeah real tough guy, bringing a hammer to a fight
Kitty teaches Logan to respect women for the first time in his misogynistic (if understandable given his height issues and need to lash out) life
Women sweep. If any of the violent offenders gender disagrees try to construct a coherent argument for once instead of the typical rabid sexism
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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Just gonna bolden who I think wins.
Wonder Woman Vs Shazam
Scarlet Witch Vs Hulk
Zatanna Vs Doctor Strange
Emma Frost Vs Brainiac
Jean Grey Vs Martian Manhunter
Poison Ivy Vs Namor -- This one is a bit iffy for me.
Black Widow Vs Nightwing
Black Canary Vs Batman
Mantis Vs The Karate Kid
Storm Vs Thor
Elektra Vs Daredevil
Magik Vs Black Bolt -- Also a bit iffy.
Kitty Pryde Vs Wolverine
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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@wollfmyth209: How dare you pick so many males as winners! Read post 7, you violent gender offender, you rabid sexist bigot.
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@the_badman: I feel like it's trolling, but if it isn't... I worry, sometimes, Bads, I really do.
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@the_badman: I feel like it's trolling, but if it isn't... I worry, sometimes, Bads, I really do.
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@the_badman: I feel like it's trolling, but if it isn't... I worry, sometimes, Bads, I really do.
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@the_badman: I feel like it's trolling, but if it isn't... I worry, sometimes, Bads, I really do.
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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Current Strange, even though is considerably depowered, have still shown to be able to stalemate Loki in the same storyline where the later one-shotted Captain Marvel, Thor and Iron Man. What has Zatanna done in Rebirth that's so impressive?
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