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Round 1- Wanda, Strange, And Iron Man Vs Thor
Round 2- Wanda, Strange, Iron Man, And Hulk Vs Thor
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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Location: Wakandan fields
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Round 1- Wanda, Strange, And Iron Man Vs Thor
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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Still Thor until A4, where Hulk and maybe Iron Man get better feats.
Nobody that was on a team that got team-busted by Thanos is taking down the guy that carved a hole in Thanos chest.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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@alavanka: Wanda never got team busted by Thanos. She held him back after everyone was knocked unconscious. And he only knocked her out when she let her guard down.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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Wanda can solo if she's serious.
Team definitely stomps.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@emmafrostxmen: She was on the Wakandan team that got busted by Thanos. And actually, Thanos had his back turned to Wanda when he backhanded her. Wanda was actually trying to get to her feet to rush Thanos.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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@alavanka: No she was just there in Wakanda. It’s not like they all attacked him at once. Wanda’s attack took place after the rest of the team was already incapacitated. So that makes it a 1v1 of just Wanda vs thanos.
That’s would mean ur implying that Thor was teambusted by thanos because at the end of the movie he was on the Wakanda team. Thor’s attack also took place after everyone was knocked out just like Wanda’s.
If it was the whole team attacking at the same time not just 1 by 1 thanos would not beat them. (Wakanda team by the end of the movie: Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Groot, Rocket, Hulkbuster armor Bruce banner, white wolf, Okoye, Black Panther, Falcon, And War Machine)
if you think thanos would win a fight against this team attacking all at once as opposed to just running at him 1 by 1 ur insane.
This is my thread so I did not say who wins I am just giving some feats and being logical.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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Team can defenitely win but needs at least a few minutes of prep to formulate a plan.
They have the necessary Hax to defeat Thor and raw power from Stark, crimson bands of Cytorrak and Wanda's TK. But they need a little time to get their shit together for a viable plan because Thor has a lot of raw power.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@emmafrostxmen: The fact that Wanda chose to kill Vision instead of helping out speaks volumes about her chances against Thanos. Don't you think that if Wanda thought she could have hurt Thanos, or prevented him from taking Vision's stone in any capacity, that she would have decided to not kill her own lover? Wanda was on the field with Captain America's group, so she knew she would have back-up if she tried to fight Thanos. She still made the call to kill Vision, instead of wasting time on a fight she knew they couldn't win. Thor flew in after the other Avengers were knocked out. More importantly, after Thanos plucked the mind stone and completed the gauntlet. So actually, Thor faced a version of Thanos that was even stronger than what the Wakanda team faced. Despite all of this, losing wasn't even a consideration in Thor's mind. In his mind, he was going he was going to humiliate Thanos and gloat about it. Doesn't this right here say a lot about where these two are at?
Thor was teambusted in Infinity War, but not in Wakanda. Thor was teambusted at the beginning of the movie on the refugee ship, along with Hulk and Loki. Difference is, Thor got stronger throughout the film by obtaining Stormbreaker. Thor didn't lose a fight on Wakanda. He simply failed to prevent the snap. The snap never damaged Thor (admittedly due to luck) and Thanos teleported away to recover from his wounds. This is different from Wanda outright being unable to do any significant damage to Thanos and getting knocked out. The reason Thor didn't prevent the snap wasn't because of a lack of power or the ability to beat Thanos in combat. Thor could have gone for the head, but chose not to do so because he wanted to gloat.
I don't think Thor can be defeated by blasting stuff at him. Nobody here is going to blast harder than the Infinity Gauntlet or a neutron star. I do think Strange can pull win conditions with mirror dimension bfr, provided bifrost can't bring Thor out of it.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@alavanka: Thor has access to a weapon that was specifically designed to cancel out the infinity gauntlets power. Personally I wouldn’t even say “Thor” fought thanos at the end of the movie. Thor only fought thanos at the beginning and got stomped by not only thanos but ebony maw aswell (Maw was able to easily restrain Thor, and maw has less powerful TK than Wanda). I say Thor didn’t really fight thanos at the end because all he did was knock him back with lightning which didn’t really do anything and than he threw Stormbreaker threw the blast of the completed infinity gauntlet. This is supposed to be some godly feat for Thor but it ain’t. That’s a feat for Stormbreaker. Without his weapon designed to beat the infinity gauntlet Thor would have lost just like he did first time.
Wanda has to kill vision to ensure that thanos doesn’t get the stone. They came much closer to winning with that plan. If Wanda tried to fight thanos she would have lost. No one can beat thanos with 3 or more stones. If thanos had literally 1 or 2 Stones he could have beaten Thor. Again the only reason Stormbreaker got threw the blast was because it was made to do that.
Wanda’s power feat was much better honestly. She used her powers not some weapon and held back thanos while not even paying that much attention to him(she was more focused on vision). While yes Thor did use lightning it did not do any visible damage to thanos.
I did not say who wins but this is closer than you think. And you are lowballing all of Wanda’s previous feats from other movies.
Also theoretically Wanda can TK Stormbreaker becayse it doesn’t have the same enchantment miolnir (idk how to spell it) had.
Thor’s feat from the end of the movie wasn’t nearly as good as his star feat was. Tanking the stars blast was much more impressive.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@emmafrostxmen: There's no proof of Stormbreaker being designed specifically to cancel the infinity stones' power. Stormbreaker mold must have been made before Eitri lost his hands, so before he met Thanos. Eitri never intended to forge the Infinity Gauntlet. It wouldn't make any sense for Eitri to design a weapon specifically to counter another weapon he never planned on making. But even if we entertain the idea that Stormbreaker was made to counter the gauntlet, Wanda's power comes from the mind stone. Infact the reason she could destroy it was because her powers has a very similar energy signature to the mind stone's. Saying that Stormbreaker is made specifically to cancel infinity stone powers means Thor has a specific advantage against Wanda. So either way, I fail to see why Stormbreaker wouldn't just plough its way through Wanda's blast.
Stormbreaker is part of Thor's arsenal in the same way Tony's suits are part of Iron Man. I don't see how pointing out how it's a weapon discredits Thor's advantage over Wanda. We know from Ragnarok that the weapons are just there to help Thor channel his godly powers. Stormbreaker just happens to be the most efficient design for this. At least, that's how the science advisor working for Marvel Studio explains it. Even without a weapon, Thor's lightning bolt is enough to daze the Hulk and knockdown Hela for several minutes. Scarlet Witch is also not Thanos. Thanos can survive an onslaught from Hulk, Iron Man dropping a ship on him, and bombs from point blank range. Just because Thanos can tank Thor's lightning doesn't mean Wanda can. Wanda certainly isn't tanking Thor's lightning better than Hulk, Thanos, and Hela can. Even if she survives the lightning bolt, she'll be dazed enough for Thor to follow up with Stormbreaker. Or if he doesn't have Stormbreaker, he can pick up any large piece of metal laying around and whack Wanda with it like he did Hulk.
Thor was heavily exhausted by the time Maw got to him. Not only did Thanos beat him up, but this happened on the same day he fought Hela. One on one, versus a fresh Thor, there's no way Ebony Maw could have taken Thor on that spaceship. If all else fails, Thor has enough power to blow up the entire spacecraft and leave them all stranded in space. Thor can survive space. Maw can't.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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@alavanka: anyway I say that without Stormbreaker Wanda>Doctor Strange>Thor>iron man.
With Stormbreaker it goes Thor(w/ Stormbreaker)>Wanda>Strange>Iron Man.
Also Thor did not seem fatigued at all. In truth o don’t think he could have broken out of ebony maws TK. Maw showed too much precision with his TK for Thor to just muscle out of it.
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Wanda gets one-shotted by AOE, Strange probably does too. Thor takes em all out unless they have prep
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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Thor one shots Wanda and Strange with a bolt. Tony beating Thor is a joke.
It's not like they can put him down anyway.
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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I can definitely see the team taking some wins via Strange's BFG. other than that, I don't see them winning. Wanda isn't exactly the fastest, she can easily get KO'ed
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