just watched both movies yesterday and they seemed damn near meta-human at times

who's the strongest character beatrix kiddo can beat? she has the hanzo sword.

all fights take place in the lobby from the matrix

1) black widow

2) john wick

3) mcu daredevil

4) nolan batman

5) characters from crouching tiger hidden dragon (can she solo?)

6) dceu deadshot

7) cw green arrow

8) cassandra cain

9) mcu cap (no shield)

10) mcu luke cage

Stops at 2. He shoots her, a lot.

I'm not sure. I'd have to watch the movies again.

This is massively out of order and needs more information. I'm going to assume these are all close quarters, because she has no feats against guns, her best reaction feat is catching a hatchet, so putting her against opponents who have skill with guns, arrows and so on is pointless.

• She clears the first 4 assuming they don't have guns. She could beat Jen Yu in a close fight, but not Yu Shu Lien and she'd be destroyed by Li Mu Bai.


• Destroys Deadshot in close quarters, is destroyed at range.


• Cassie whoops her.


• Ollie loses in close quarters, shoots her at range. Based on the first 3 seasons anyway.


• Beats Cap if he doesn't have his shield, probably loses otherwise but it would be tight.


• Her Hanzo sword sliced clean through other katana when she hit hard enough... not sure what it would do to Luke, or whether or not she could bypass his durability with the five point exploding heart technique. If the sword hurts him or the technique works, she could win, if not, she loses.

she casually dodged a shotgun blast at point blank range in vol. 2

Are you talking about against Karen Kim? Beatrix flips and kicks the door, getting out of the way and then Karen shoots after blocking the knife with her shotgun, shooting the same place Beatrix was a second ago. It's not a great feat in my opinion.

did you see the spread on that shotgun blast? it utterly destroyed the door. I think that feat at least puts kiddo in the in the range of casual aim dodger. a normal human, no matter how trained, is dodging a shotgun blast at point blank range. and as karen kim said herself, she's "a f***ing surgeon" with that shotgun, so its not like she was some random fodder.

Her saying that means nothing to be honest, saying 'I'm great at X' isn't a feat. Kim blocked the knife then shot at the place Beatrix had already moved from before she had blocked it, it's not a good dodging feat in my opinion.

Needs more details in OP: Starting distance, gear, is it h2h only (does she have her Hanzo sword), rest between rounds, etc.

1. black widow - Kiddo wins


2. john wick - If John has his guns, he wins; cqc she wins


3. mcu daredevil - Bride wins


4. nolan batman - If Batman has his suit and all the gadgets, he might win; without it Kiddo wins


5. characters from crouching tiger hidden dragon (can she solo?) - she loses to any of the big 3 from the first movie, but can beat some of the characters from the sequel


6. dceu deadshot - Completely depends on if he has guns; without them Floyd gets stomped


7. cw green arrow - He could light her up with arrows (assuming he has them). CW Ollie actually fires at a pretty fast rate; in pure h2h, I'd actually take Ollie in a really tough fight. She may have to resort to the five point exploding heart technique.


8. cassandra cain - Cassie stomps


9. mcu cap - If Cap has the shield, he wins; without it, she loses unless she manages to use the five point exploding heart technique.


10. mcu luke cage - No idea how she gets passed his skin, so he wins.

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Assuming standard gear for everyone, I'd say round 10. I don't see what she could do to break past Cage's unbreakable skin.

agree to disagree. a normal human couldn't have dodged that

I feel like a scrub for not actually seen those movies even though my mom watches it on TV.

Hanging with Bucky is nice, but I'm not impressed by Hawkeye, Chitauri, or Ultron bots. The Bride didn't have too many fodder fights anyway other than the Crazy 88, which I think is a more impressive fodder feat than Widow considering the sheer numbers disadvantage.

Agree to disagree. It's like despite the many, many times he gets tagged throughout the series, people act like his pseudo-radar sense means he's nigh impossible to touch.

His suit is vulnerable to piercing and she has a Hanzo sword and a huge mobility advantage. He's not "crushing" her. Without the suit, he gets carved up.

??? Forgive me if I'm forgetting something, but when did Deadshot ever show that he can throw projectiles? I'm fairly certain he hasn't and shooting and throwing aren't interchangeable, so he gets stomped.

She took a lot of punishment in those two films, she can survive a hit from Cap. When does an in character Cap ever attempt to one hit kill someone anyway? I'm not even sure what the disagreement is here since I never brought up her sword. I literally said her only chance is the 5 point blah blah blah and it is.

(IF THING IS UNARMED)

1) black widow.- Kiddo might ultimately win.

2) john wick.- Kiddo with minimum difficulty

3) mcu daredevil.- Kiddo. Same as with Wick

4) nolan batman.- Kiddo. Sme as with two previous fighters

5) characters from crouching tiger hidden dragon (can she solo?).- Nah...

6) dceu deadshot.- She wrecks

7) cw green arrow.- Stalemate.

8) cassandra cain.- Cassie stomps.

9) mcu cap (no shield).- Cap. She might hold him for a while tho.

10) mcu luke cage.- Luke... she might result as annoying as Elektra (skill wise), but Luke is way superior