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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
Poll: MCU+616 Captain America runs Berserk gauntlet (4 votes)
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
1. General Adon 0%
2. Samson 0%
3. General Boscogn 0%
4. Guts (Golden Age) 25%
5. Grunbeld (Human form) 25%
6. Zodd (Human form) 25%
7. Guts (Prime, Berserker armor+Dragonslayer) 0%
8. Skull Knight (Can't use behelit sword) 0%
Clears 25%
How far can composite (MCU+616 feats) Captain America go? He is fully healed after each round. He has vibranium shield and kevlar armor, but no other weapons and powerups.
1. General Adon
Let's start with a small threat. Although Adon is clearly a powerful warrior, covered in full plate armor head to toe and very skilled in combat, he can't really be called peak human. That's only the beginning though.
2. Samson
Samson is a whole tier above his brother Adon (both in power, and sheer size) his armor is said to be three times thicker than that of a normal warrior, and it still doesn't even slow him down - his flail hits so hard, that Guts admitted each one of them is an instant death blow.
3. General Boscogn
Now we're talking. Boscogn is a pure badass, strong&skilled enough to cut clear through three armed soldiers with one swing. He's also first warrior who can be argued to actually defeat Guts. Wasn't it for Zodd who gave Guts his own sword to defend himself, Guts would not live to see another manga chapter against this guy.
4. Guts (Golden Age)
Though this Guts is far from his prime he is still a very formidable opponent for Cap. He is easily peak human in stats and skilled enough to cut down 100 men on his own. This will be a fight Cap will remember.
5. Grunbeld
Now we're moving to actual heavy hitters of Berserk. Even restricted to his human form, Grunbeld is clearly superhuman, as he can both shoot, and tank cannonballs with his shield, and his hammer hits so hard that prime Guts was instantly overpowered by him and needed Berserker armor to actually win the fight.
6. Zodd
The only warrior known to be superior to Grunbeld in New Band of the Hawk, Zodd, is known across the entire world for being undefeated, and for a good reason. Even in his human form his stats should be around small building level, and his combat skill and battle experience is legendary.
7. Guts (Prime)
Awww yeah, it's Guts, the Black Swordsman himself. In his prime, not even Zodd can stand up to him, at least not in his human form. In Berserker armor Guts is faster than an eye can track, hits harder than a canon, and his dragonslayer will be a perfect rival for Caps's shield. He is also supported by armor's dark magic, that gives him complete pain resistance and a berserk mode.
8. Skull Knight
If any character who is not a straight diety can be argued to be above Guts in Berserk, that would be him, the Skull Knight, the foe of inhuman beings. Skull Knight doesn't seem to be human, and resembled more of a demon inhabiting an armor. His speed and power dwarf over all other Berserk characters, even prime Guts and Apostle form Zodd. Putting this guy down will be a job bordering impossible, even for composite Cap.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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MCU Cap has no place against anyone past Adon. Samson would probably snap him in half. I can’t imagine there is a feat of MCU Cap’s that 616 couldn’t replicate.
I’m not overly familiar with 616 Cap, but from what I’ve picked up on the Vine I think he might stop at Grunbeld. He hits like a goddamn cannon and no sold hits from the Dragonslayer with his shield. I know Cap is a beast, but Grunbeld’s overall physicality is just astonishing. He pretty much ragdolled a black swordsman Guts - albeit a wounded one - with no effort.
If he makes it past there, he again probably stops at Zodd. No way in hell does he beat Berseker armour Guts.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than. I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight. He's much faster by feats, his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted. Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down. Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius. btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
@comicgirl21 said:
616 Cap gets ALL of his feats? Well he clears than.
Any particular feats you have in mind? Because I can't recall Cap ever being stated to be above peak human in 616. He has plenty feats against Thor and other planet+levels, but these are obviously just PIS and bad writing issues, as he is ALWAYS referred to as peak human, and has just as many low end feats fighting street levels and getting his ass kicked as he has other feats.
I dont think he'll have any trouble beating even skull knight.
he is never getting to that round, but ok.
He's much faster by feats,
just WHAT. Skull Knight has reaction feats better than freakin Quicksilver. I mean how do you imagine any Marvel character repeating THIS feat:
not to mention Skull Knight is fast enough to run on vertical walls... Yeah... Good job keeping up with this guy.
his shield can tank everything SK has to offer bar his reality warping sword, which is restricted.
ok on that we can agree. I don't think Skull Knight can cut through vibranium with his regular sword. He still won't need to. With much superior feats of power, speed and all imaginable stats, he will just overpower Cap, throw away his shield and cut him clean in two in seconds.
Cap's shield can be used to decapitate undead such as vampires so even if Skull Knight is an undead demon he is going down.
ok That's just silly. Decapitating vampires? When did that ever happened? And even if it did, how is decapitating vampires = killing an astral, demi-god character?
Their skill cant be compared, Cap is a universal genius.
Cap is a genius in H2H. That's not how the fight is going to look like. Skull Knight has full body armor, all Cap can hope for is making a little dents in his armor that won't even hurt him, since most likely there isn't even a body inside. Cap's H2H skill is useless here.
btw 616 beating up high tiers like Hulk is by far more impressive than anything Guts/Zodd and others have done.
No, it's not. First, like I said, Cap also has plenty of low end feats. Second, Guts and Zodd defeated a literal god, ganishka, who would shit on the Hulk. Third, Skull Knight is even better than them.
OT: Grunbeld is as far as Cap can ever go. It can be argued golden age Guts would win a majority over Cap too. He has better speed and if Cap makes one mistake Guts is cutting him in half, while Guts can take many hits from Cap without even slowing down.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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@turr:
616 Cap has very consistent feats against the Hulk for example, who is both faster and ridiculously stronger/more dangerous than any god-like being in Berserk ever. This just means Cap has the skills and fighting experience to get the job done and overcome gap in stats - who, by the way, are WAY better then you Cap credit for. This is exactly why he clears this. He has the stats to rival these guys, and the skill to win every round.
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