Morals off

Take place in Metropolis

Flashtime Barry willing to use everything to win

Stormbreaker Thor

Post jl Superman

Thor and Supers get the oof

Team murders him. He’s massively faster but that’s it, he’ll break his hand on them. CW Flash is extremely incompetent.

@supremegeneration: You mean Reverse Flash, right? If so, he usually goes for phasing before punches, so breaking anything at all wouldn't happen. I'm also not accounting the "durability of organs" argument for being frankly silly and ignoring the mechanic of phasing.

CW Flash has shown he is massively competent since season 4, in which he only really jobbed two times. If you were referring to season 2 or 3 Barry, I would agree, but he's much better than what he was.

@stalin-is-steel: 2 or 3 times? He got tagged by a literal statue, a dino skeleton got tagged by that Helium lady TWICE then failed to save a falling car while capturing her, got tagged by Breacher, could’ve avoided issue with Kilgore by not standing still like an idiot, got hit by a blast from Fallout despite looking right at him, ran into X-Canary’s scream IIRC (could be wrong).

Season 4 Barry is many things, but incompetent he remains.

@stalin-is-steel: he was more comptentent in s3 then s4

This a major mismatch, Reverseflash alone could win. The team would slaughter Flash.

This is arguable, but since S4 has such rubbish writing, I'm fine with that.

@mister_surreal: Rf can't win against Flashtime Barry

@eobard21: Both of their speeds are insanely inconsistent, but they always seem to be around the same speed. I say that either could win.

@eobard21: Then why did you put him in then? Impartiality is pretty damn important, and putting in a dude that you think can't win isn't that at all.

@stalin-is-steel: No I mean he can't win alone against him that's why I made a team

@eobard21: I'd actually argue that, they seemed equal in their latest fight and RF doesn't job as compared to Barry. He's also much smarter and more skilled, so I think he has a good shot here.

@stalin-is-steel: I think Barry got faster with Flashtime, so idk if rf can match Flashtime Barry in speed

The team. This is really unfair to Flash.

@indomitableregal: Why ? He's stronger than all of them in 1vs1

Stalemate unless Barry gets tagged.

@eobard21: Barry has never used Flashtime in combat. Either it's out of character for him to use it in that fashion, or it can't be done. RF's still got phasing and time remnants on his side and that's not including the rest of the team who could potentially take him out if he is sloppy, which he has done on multiple occasions.

@eobard21: Faster? Sure. Stronger? Nah. More durable? Also nah. More competent? Also a nah. He's also the only person here with pretty much no AoE attacks (sans RF), he's less skilled than everyone barring Superman, his lightning is useless against Clark, Diana, and Thor, etc. I'm not giving Barry the win here.

@indomitableregal: What about him taking Diana's sword to take out everyone ? It's a solution since he's morals off not saying that he can win with that

@eobard21 said:

Reverseflash isn't just going to stand there and let that happen. In fact, Eobard is more likely to do that to him than he is to the rest of them.

@mister_surreal: That's true

@eobard21: Barry doesn't kill. It's not in character, even for a pissed off Flash.

@indomitableregal: All these characters are morals off. Barry isn't going to hold back.

@eobard21: Honestly, Barry's best chance is making time remnants. That way he could definitely beat Reverseflash.

@mister_surreal: I definitely agree that making time remnants would help him a lot

@mister_surreal: Morals off isn't the same as out of character. Actually out of everyone here, Barry is the least likely to kill.

@indomitableregal: Morals off means that to they are no longer held by by their normal moral restrictions. In Barry's case, he won't be held back by his "no killing" rule. That's what "morals off" means.

Morals on/off and in-character are always separated. We differentiate. A morals off Batman might beat someone within an inch of their life, but as long as he's in-character, he's not gonna kill them. Same applies here. A morals off Barry won't hold back -- speedblitzes, lightning, speed clones, supersonic (and presumably hypersonic) punches, etc. -- but killing goes against his character.

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