@shootingnova said:Yeah.She discovers the accounts of the Great Sith War, and learns that though Kun was far more powerful than any one other Jedi of the time, a combined force had defeated him.Sour...

@lordofthelight said: Yoda's epiphany at piercing the cloud of the dark side was not that he was inferior in skill or power to the Sith, but that the Sith had grown and changed with the times and tha...

@darthfallax said:@silver2467: Absolutely amazing post Silver, I can´t express how much I thank you for that, especially since I haven´t done my research there LOL. I probably will respond on the week...

@shootingnova said:Kun did sense Ulic as a rival from across the galaxy prior to their duel, and both grew tremendously since, but I believe there's a quote saying Kun by the end of his reign was far...

@kilius: In complete seriousness, I really respect your even attitude towards this conversation. That's not all too common in these topics and should definitely be acknowledged.And sure, we can agree ...

@azronger: I haven't found an exact height or width. I know that it was built over the ruins of the Imperial Palace, but how much precisely of that still stood is anyone's guess.The Citadel had at lea...

@kilius said: Yoda lost but he wasn't outmatched, like Sidious supporters are trying to spin.According to a multitude of sources, he in fact was overmatched.@kilius said: He lost do to a factor compl...

@shootingnova said: @silver2467: Sorry for the late reply. :)Same, lol.@shootingnova said: Mind elaborating on how you think it'll turn out if this happens?I think a better adjustment would be omitt...

I remember ShootingNova saying a few years ago that he'd never seen an argument for Yoda over Sidious that didn't labor a series of double standards or reversible arguments, and in my years of activit...

@darthfallax: Sorry for the lateness of this reply, Fallax. On top of other responsibilities, I had to review large sections of the book in order to piece together Onimi’s influence because the ending...

@i_like_swords said: I'll concede that Sidious can defeat Windu with lightning/TK and is merely his equal in a duel, but the original point of my argument is that Windu is not someone Sidious can jus...

@i_like_swords: Thanks. That basically affirms my initial impression.Given that Dooku and Caedus have been outright dominated with the Force by two all-time-top-tiers, Sidious and Luke respectively, a...

I know virtually nothing about Valkorion, but it seems obvious even to me that he wins this.

@kilius: Speaking on Legends versions, since that was the thread's original stipulation, I just find Dooku's overall track record and reputation within the lore a bit weightier. Maul enjoys the advant...

I still side with Dooku but only just. This is about as close a fight as you're liable to find this side of Kun and Qel-Droma or Yoda and the Emperor.

@dark-sith123 said:Windu clearly isn't fodder to Sidious while Dooku... pretty much is.This is correct.And Team 1 wins primarily because of Windu.

@i_like_swords said: Uh, the dude tried in both the comic adaptation and the movie, that part with the lightning and the trying their hardest to murder each other. It's strange that you appeal to the...