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Raven/Starfire vs Itachi/Nagato















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#1
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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge












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#2
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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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#3
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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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#6
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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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@totu: that's cool, no hate












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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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#12
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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window












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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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#14
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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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#15
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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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#16
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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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#18
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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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#19
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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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#20
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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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#22
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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.












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#23
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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto












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#25
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Team naruto wins this












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#26
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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Raven/Starfire vs Itachi/Nagato















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#1
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werkudoro
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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge












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#2
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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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#3
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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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#4
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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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#6
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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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#7
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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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#8
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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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#9
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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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#10
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@totu: that's cool, no hate












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#11
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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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#12
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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window












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#13
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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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#14
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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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#15
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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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#16
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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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#17
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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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#18
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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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#19
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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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#20
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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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#21
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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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#22
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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Team naruto wins this












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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.












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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto












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Team naruto wins this












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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge












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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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@totu: that's cool, no hate












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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window












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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.












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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


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Team naruto wins this












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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.












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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto












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Team naruto wins this












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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge












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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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@totu: that's cool, no hate












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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window












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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.












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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


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Team naruto wins this












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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder












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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch












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@iamduck: yeah, there you go












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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.












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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins












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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult












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@totu: I think he meant the other way












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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however












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@totu: that's cool, no hate












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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.












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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly












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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same












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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot












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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation












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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck












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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary












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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi












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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.












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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto












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Team naruto wins this












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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.










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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge








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#1
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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge








#1
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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge







#1
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Random encounter


In character


Standard gear


No prep or knowledge


Itachi and nagato are alive and healthy


Pre 52 feats


Win by any means


Location: Metropolis


Scenario 2:


Itachi and nagato are Edo


1 day prep


Full Knowledge









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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder








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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder








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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder







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finally, a good battle,


but still, Nagato can pull out people's soul while itachi can seal people into a drunken stupor with his totsuka blade the second it touches them.


starfire might be faster, but has no way to counter the edo and shinra tensei.


Itachi and raven have similar properties, but Itachi was able to keep up with Naruto, who can maneuver past lightning attacks, so her speed is not an issue, and not only that, but we heven't seen raven have anything to counter the amaterasu, and most of her attacks would be reflected by the yata mirror,


I don't see how they can counter their abilities


edo tensei will just make it harder









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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch








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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch








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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch







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@sladerulez: correction ego tensie will just make it a mismatch









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@iamduck: yeah, there you go








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@iamduck: yeah, there you go








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@iamduck: yeah, there you go







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@iamduck: yeah, there you go













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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.








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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.








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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.







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I admit I have no idea what Naruto team can do, however to correct some things like about Raven speed. Raven not just that have some precognition but she dodged lightinings from Trigon, Cyborg sonic weapon and an enraged Superboy fist strikes (and also TK attacks) from close distance.


She also have instant teleportation that move her even faster than Flash. If Starfire is faster than the other team, they won't be able to touch Raven either. Also Starfire have a powerful ranged attack, her starbolts are powerful enough to KO even Wonder Woman, and she can keep up with WW in a physical brawl too, at least for a while.


Raven can use as well empathy/telepathy, magic, soul-self, TK, energy attacks and BFR. She is also strong enough to (temporarly) kill one of her brothers by speedblitz him and ripping his heart out of his chest with her bare hand and claws. And her brothers have no problems having a good time and relaxing in an omniversal interdimensional place, staying in a spot where several millions universes where colliding around and through them.









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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins








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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins








#6
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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins







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Round 1 wins with high difficulty


Round 2 Wins









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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult








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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult








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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult







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Yeah, agree, Raven and Starfire wins, not sure how difficult









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@totu: I think he meant the other way








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@totu: I think he meant the other way








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@totu: I think he meant the other way







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@totu: I think he meant the other way









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#9
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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however








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#9
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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however








#9
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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however







#9
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@sladerulez: yes, possibly. I still keep my opinion however









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#10
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@totu: that's cool, no hate








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#10
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@totu: that's cool, no hate








#10
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@totu: that's cool, no hate







#10
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@totu: that's cool, no hate









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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.








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#11
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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.








#11
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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.







#11
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@sladerulez: yeah, same here, thanks.









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#12
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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window








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#12
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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window








#12
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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window







#12
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@totu: @sladerulez: see now this is how it's supposed to be done


You argue but you respect each other


If comicvine2 came here though we're gonna have throw the respect each other part out the window









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#13
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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly








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#13
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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly








#13
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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly







#13
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@iamduck: Oh god yes,
the guy wouldn't stop trolling.


@totu: thanks for taking other's opinion calmly









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#14
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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same








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#14
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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same








#14
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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same







#14
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@sladerulez: I can't stop laughing right now with the current debate he is involved in


Basically he is trying to say Erza's every bone except on one hand being broken yet has the power to meteor bust and massively hypersonic isn't a major Erza Moment by saying Goku did the same thing


Lol Goku had one arm broken and nothing more


I fail to see how that is the same









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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot








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#15
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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot








#15
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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot







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@iamduck: he's not comparing goku to erza is he?


...that idiot









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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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#16
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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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#16
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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos



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#16
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With the sheer amount of edge and angst the Naruto team has, Raven solos





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#17
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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation








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#17
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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation








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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation







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@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation









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#18
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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?



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#18
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@sladerulez:


What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


That is beyond out of character for Itachi. Besides, if a Daxamite can't blitz her then Itachi can't either


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


Doubtful. Daxamites are comparable to Kryptonians so even if he could do that, he would probably end up getting every bone in his body broken


Itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Which he doesn't have the feats to say he can use on Raven, and is beyond out of character for him to use unless he knows from the start he can't win without it


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation


Against somebody has completely no knowledge about and could turn his mind to goo before he could learn anything?





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#19
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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck








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#19
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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck








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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck







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@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation




You total have 0 clue what Starfire or Raven can do and just gicing fanboy opinion. Go read up on thiose characters. They would wreck





@sladerulez said:


@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation






@sladerulez said:



@decaf_wizard: What if raven is speed blitzed by Itachi, who could evade and counter lightning speed attacks and opponents, and get's sealed by the totsuka blade.


Nagato can use bansho tennin to pull starfire towards him, before pulling out her soul and kill her,


itachi can use izanami to control people and their will


Not only that, but Itachi is an utter genius, and can always come up with something, no matter the situation










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#20
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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary








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#20
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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary








#20
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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary







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raven solos.


no counter against her time stop -> no further discussion necessary









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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi








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#21
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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi








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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi







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@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi









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#22
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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.








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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.








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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.







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@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi




Raven with hr telepathy wrecks easly. Not even a contest.





@sladerulez said:


@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi






@sladerulez said:



@ravensupreme:Raven's time stop, is a badass ability hands down, and practically impossible to counter, but we've only seen her do it once I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and we're uncertian if she can do it again or If there are risks behind it. since she only used it once, so I wouldn't count it.


@supermanforever: And you have not given any facts, period. so... say why instead of just calling one a fanboy


besides, I know that starfire and raven are stronger than itachi and nagato, but that does not automatically make them the winners


raven has Intangibility, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, illusion, can turn into a giant raven, and more shit than I can think of,


when it comes to starfire, She is A tank! Her strength and endurance allowed her to survive what I believe was a cosmic bomb!


However, You also must remember that they can't just jump in and kill them.


If either attempts to throw an attack at Nagato or has physical contact with him, It will be absorbed or pushed away and the more he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. So, how will they kill him immediately? Also, he also has the Asura path, that allows him to have multiple limbs and three heads, giving him complete 360 vision. Along with a cannon in his asura arm that, in the game, blew up the chibaku tensei, so it will not be easy


And when it comes to Itachi, He is Nowhere near as strong as the others, but he replaces that with pure genius and devastating techniques. Some of the techniques can probably end the fight too,


amaterasu, Doesn't need air to stay active, only the caster can extinguish it, burns everything it touches to ash, This could kill starfire, because there is no feats that shows her to be capable of surviving anything with the heat of the sun.


susanoo, The susanoo, Itachi's trump card, is by far the biggest threat to them, considering that, If starfire's in character, She'll try to tank it, which will get her caught by the totsuka blade and seal her, along with the Yata mirror, which is practically a giant captain america sheild


Now, can Nagato and Itachi beat them the first round? probably not, because these techniques are taxing in ones reserves and will probably get too tired to continue, making starfire and raven the victors.


However, I can't say the same for the second round, because they have unlimited chakra and can reform, no matter what damage they take. If raven has a way to reverse it, then maybe. Otherwise the second round will go to Nagato and itachi










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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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#23
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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11128/111280708/5679353-3887593113-56596.jpg








#23
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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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#23
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Raven can solo speed is not a problem , her telportation skills and agility will be fine. Ravens empathy/ Telepathy is superior , if they push to Possession mode will end this fight completely. She put down the entire Jla, Teen titans roster , Deadly Sins , Darkseid , Orion, Superman, and Trigon . Was able to Pacify Dark Phoenix and Ko'd Professor X . Raven at her finest is universal ++


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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto








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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto








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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto







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Scenario 1: Team DC


Scenario 2: Team Naruto









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Team naruto wins this








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Team naruto wins this








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Team naruto wins this









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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.








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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.








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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.







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It really depends on Raven's mindset, and under whose pen she's being written. Some of her high end TP, TK and Empathy feats would allow her to solo. But then she also gets incapacitated every now and then when she feels hatred, fear or anger.









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