Strictly Hand to Hand

Takes place here

Bruce, if he gets his suit.

Ward. Just better at everything. Stronger, more durable, hits harder, more skilled, faster, etc.

Ward beats his ass. Only edge Batman has is maybe durability

Bruce is overall better

He hits harder as well. Don't think we've seen Ward break concrete. And skill is debatable.

@rbt: skill isn't up for debate. Ward is infinitely more skilled than him. When did he crack concrete?

@_kingoflatveria: @rbt:

May can shatter concrete with her fingertips, and Ward's consistently superior to May in physical attributes such as strength and durability.

I just wanted to point that out.

@the_magister: that was debunked stop wanking it, and I know you saw the debunk lol

My bad, not concrete. Brick. But close.

As for skill, why isn't it up for debate? Bruce took on 3 or 4 LoS soldiers, IIRC. And his first night out fight was extremely impressive as well.

Regardless, Bruce should have better strength, striking, and durability. Skill is up for debate but close either way. He should edge it out,

@_kingoflatveria: Even if you choose to disregard that:

May can oneshot Kree, who no-sell Coulson hitting them. (Coulson can smash through brick with his robot arm pretty easily)

Ward is portrayed to be stronger, more durable, etc. than May in all of their fights.

Ward, not particularly close either

Been done.