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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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TDW was pretty good...
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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both films were subpar IMO
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the dark world sucked
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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@amcu said:
Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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The first Thor > Infinity War
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@magian said:
I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Unpopular Opinion: Why Thor: The Dark World is a vast improvement on Thor (2011)
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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Characters>Cool images
Thor> Thor 2
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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TDW was pretty good...
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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both films were subpar IMO
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the dark world sucked
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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@amcu said:
Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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The first Thor > Infinity War
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@magian said:
I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@mutant1230 said:
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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TDW was pretty good...
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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TDW was pretty good...
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
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both films were subpar IMO
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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TDW was pretty good...
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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Thor> Thor 2
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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TDW was pretty good...
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
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both films were subpar IMO
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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Characters>Cool images
Thor> Thor 2
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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In all seriousness, yes the first Thor film is far better than TDW on my book.
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TDW was pretty good...
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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both films were subpar IMO
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the dark world sucked
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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The first Thor > Infinity War
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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Thor: The Dark World is considered by many to be the worst MCU movie, but if you ask me, it's a huge improvement upon the first Thor movie. Why? Because they at least tried to make use of the creative and fantastic world Thor lives in.
I will never understand why they chose to set the first Thor movie out in a small town in New Mexico. Thor is a character with some of the coolest lore in all of comics, they could have given us a really epic fantasy-adventure movie, but they didn't. To me, this would be like if Black Panther only had a few scenes taking place in Wakanda, or if we barely get to see Atlantis in Aquaman.
At least Thor: The Dark World tried. At least they showed us the fantastic worlds of the nine realms. This is not to say that the movie is great by any means, but at least they tried.
So, as much hate as Thor: The Dark World gets, I am convinced that it is an improvement upon it's predecessor.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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One point I have to agree with is the MCU not showing enough of the Nine Realms. I still prefer the first Thor though. Thor: The Dark World is still my least favourite MCU Movie.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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@johncena69swag said:
Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
better than the winter soldier? oh boy
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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Dark world gets more hate than it deserves imo. I think its better than the first two cap movies and iron man 3 at least.
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I loved Thor: The Dark World. Thought it was a huge improvement over the first Thor. I never understood the hate this movie got.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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I wouldn't say Dark World was a vast improvement over Thor 1 but Malekith and the Dark elves were improvements over Laufie and the frost giants. The frost giants were garbage without the ice box thing while the dark elves had tech to help them take on the Asguardians like the blackhole grenades, blasters etc. The Dark elves flat out attacked Asguard while the frost giants were like rats trying to scurry in.
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Characters>Cool images
Thor> Thor 2
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Characters>Cool images
Thor> Thor 2
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Thor> Thor 2
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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Thor had Hawkeye in it, so it's better.
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TDW was pretty good...
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TDW was pretty good...
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TDW was pretty good...
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TDW was pretty good...
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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No. It's just that conveyor flick you watched once and have no reason to even remember.
It was pretty tho.
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both films were subpar IMO
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both films were subpar IMO
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both films were subpar IMO
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both films were subpar IMO
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the dark world sucked
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the dark world sucked
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the dark world sucked
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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They’re both as bad as each other.
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Despite the lack of time in Asgard, the first Thor is the better film. Better story, better arc for Thor, the father son dynamic, the sibling rivalry.
TDW was ok, could have been better. Would have preferred Branagh to return to direct.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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@amcu said:
Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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Thor the Dark World is underrated but the first Thor is still better in my book.
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The first Thor > Infinity War
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The first Thor > Infinity War
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
@magian said:
I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
@magian said:
I don't think that TDW was actually bad or anything. It was just rather forgettable. Which now that I think of it more, could be even worse...
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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I disagree OP, Thor 2 was trash mainly due to Jane and her idiot friends. But I can see your point. Probably the best thing about Thor 2 were the VFX.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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Both films are quite underrated, though I still prefer the 1st one.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but it's still one of the worst MCU films.
It's not a knock against it, it's just a testament to how great the other films are.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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I never finished the first Thor. The whole Desert thing turned me off. Then I see scenes of him in frost realm and on the rainbow bridge, and I'm like dang this looks dope.
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#26
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@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
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#26
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@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
#26
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@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
#26
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@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
@mutant1230 said:
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
Pretty much agree with all of this.
@asgaard said:
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
The original Thor is a better movie than its sequel, because its structure is better, and there was progression of the main characters, something that barely happened in the Dark World, besides Jane and her crew in the first movie had the purpose to connect Asgard with the rest of the Mcu aka Midgard, in the second movie they were just there almost always hurting the pace of the movie.
And the original Thor had the extra difficulty to introduce a mythological God as a superhero when the Mcu was only relying on Iron Man, the second was after the Avengers where Thor already was accepted as a superhero and the Mcu already was a thing, and still didn't evolve the concept any further, in fact went for a more scientific way that was not the path that audiences really wanted... If the foundation aka the 2011 movie was not better than its sequel, Thor would never achieve the current levels of popularity...
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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I think the main flaw of the first 2 Thor films was their focus on Earth, Thor shouldn't be an Earth based character one of the main appeals of him is that his stories can span the universe and go through space and mythical routes with crazy different characters and villains but the first 2 were very closed off from everywhere except Earth and Asgard. They should've opened us up to the cosmic side of the mcu but it tried to include Jane and co. too much to ground him to Earth. I guess the first film needed to to tie it in with the mcu and the Avengers on Earth and his origin story, but TDW could've easily spanned the nine realms in it's journey and the final battle had no specific need to be on Earth.
If they'd have explored the other realms more and space in general I feel like it could've been a much more interesting film and obviously they would have to make the storyline better but exploring the different realms opens up loads of different story opportunities instead of just Earth. Even when they did go to the other realms it was for so brief it had no impact.
I feel like TDW is underrated but had the potential to be so so much better as did the first Thor and honestly as good as Ragnarok was it also could've been better if it took the traditional Ragnarok route
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