Rules:

Battle happens in an indestructible galaxy. No BFR. Morals off. Perfect teamwork. Galactus is at Devourer levels, and has just fed upon an Earth-like planet (no Ultimate Nullifier). Satannish and Dormammu are at the peak of their power (excluding the time Dormammu had Eternity's powers). Surtur has the Twilight Sword. Who wins?

ROUND 2: Exactly the same, but Galactus has just fed upon 4 Earth-like planets.

Interesting fight here. I'll go for the Galactus Engine for now, considering how much it was able to withstand damage wise.

Still the GE.

They can possibly slow it down with the combined efforts of Dormammu and Galactus, but they aren't winning it.

Galactus Engine was in the process of soloing a whole battalion of Celestials, two near-Galactus level foes and Galactus himself. Don't think this small team can take it, even with the sated Galactus in the bonus round (who is worth like 4 Celestials max)

Think I would agree if this battle were to take place in the Cancerverse or at the Fault. Otherwise, I think the team can win rd.1, and wins rd 2 with less difficulty. IMO

@cosmic_reign: I don't believe they ever specify the GE becomes more powerful in the Cancerverse, only that is powered by the Many-Angled Ones, which I assume it would be the same here.

And aside from the GE, most of the forces from the Cancerverse were actually fodder in Thanos Imperative and are quite likely a non-factor in a full-out battle like this one.

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I can agree.

Not that the GE is more powerful there, but outside the Cancerverse even the MAOs can die.

I mean, G had already stood up to an unkillable GE, while Dormmamu had showings that may put him on par or close to par with SG.

I just think this team can take the GE mainly due to a neutral location where Death would exist and GE can actually die....

@cosmic_reign said:

I actually think the GE holds the power-advantage by a considerable margin over the team to win without the "unkillable factor" given by the Cancerverse and even though Galactus has momentarily stood up against the GE(Which was only after the Engine had already held back the Galactus, the Celestials and other entities), it doesn't mean the same of defeating a fully-powered one with half of his teammates being almost non-factors.

By SG, I assume you mean Shuma-Gorath? Because I couldn't disagree more, friend. Barring Donny Cates' own writing(And if anything Doctor Strange Vol.4#16 clealy portrays Shuma as the superior), Shuma-Gorath is usually depicted as a far bigger threat and contrary to the popular belief, has better showings.

I see and while personally don't see that being the case, I respect your opinion. Might be better to agree to disagree then.

Heh...

Ironically, I agree with u twice!

I always thought that Shuma Gorath is/was superior to or greater threat than Dormmamu, but yeah, some of these writers like to leave room for possibilities, I guess.

And also, I agree to disagree on the other part! 🙂

@cosmic_reign: Glad we agree then. ^_^

GE

none of those comments, finely