Round 1

Surtur is crippled as when first introduced and Thanos is barehanded. Start 25 feet apart.

Round 2

Healthy Surtur and Thanos is barehanded but has his armor.

Round 3

Surtur is empowered by eternal flame but is still at base size, Thanos has his armor and gauntlet with the power stone.

R1: Thanos quite easily. Crippled Surtur had no feats aside from getting his ass kicked by Thor.

R2: What is a healthy Surtur because to my memory we only saw him twice and that was when he was crippled and powered by the Eternal Flame, so again Thanos.

R3: It takes him about 8 seconds to even do anything. Thanos with the Power Stone wins easily. Much more faster and the Power Stone > anything Surtur has.

@darthvaderrocks: Healthy Surtur is just the Surtur we saw in beginning but not injured, even while injured he took multiple blows from Mjolnir and was overwhelming Thor for a bit

Also Surtur with Eternal Flame was citybusting and because he is smaller he will move much more quickly so Thanos isn't faster. His best feat with power stone is destroying the surface of a moon while Surtur was destroying the landscape of Asgard casually so that's something to consider.

@jagerzi: So we have no actual idea what a healthy Surtur even is because we don't know what sperates the two apart lol. And Surtur got rocked by Thor.

Eternal Flame Surtur is not smaller than Thanos nor is he quicker/faster.

Because he's full filling a prophecy. We actually have no idea if he could even do that if there was no prophecy.

What do you have terrible comprehension skills or something? A healthy Surtur for starts isn't walking with a limp or have a bad arm, making him a better fighter. It would be reasonable for him to have slightly more power too. Either way he's Asgardian god level based on his durability and pressuring Thor.

Read my OP then because you obviously did not, I stated that Surtur won't grow to a colossal size but he will retain his raw power, and because of that he will move faster and not be a classic giant who moves in slow motion, and even then he showed that he could deflect a headshot from Hela before it hit him.

That didn't even make sense.

He has enough power to compete with the power stone.

@jagerzi: So we still have no idea haha

So he still isn't quicker or faster than Thanos.

He doesn't have any such power to compete with the Power Stone. Its infinite power there is no limit to what it can and cannot do. Actually no character can compete with the Stone, they can only hope the user doesn't go full insane with it.

@darthvaderrocks: Yeah what I said was the idea. He's Asgardian god level clearly by his durability of tanking multiple lightning charged Mjolnir strikes and his power output.

Even if that's the case Thanos is no speedster himself and just relies on brute force, meanwhile Surtur hits with the force equal to a star.

This statement is countered by itself because we clearly are shown that the infinity stones may have lots of power but the amount accessed varies from the weilder or device used to extract power. That and we also saw Thanos strain while pulling apart the moon and completely burn out when he snapped. Meanwhile a celestial casually planet busted with no strain or effort. Plus we go by feats here.

@jagerzi: Thanos doesn't have to be a speedster to be faster than Surtur. Surtur is like 15 feet tall, he makes up for his lack of speed with his power but Thanos will naturally have an advantage in speed.

It all depends on the amount of power the user wants the Stone to output. Thanos varries the power a lot.

What does Thanos making a face have to do with anything?

Because the Celestial is using the Stone differently.

You can't say "we go by feats here" but bring up a Healthy Surtur when we have no idea what a healthy Surtur looks like as he has no feats. You gotta be consistent.

@darthvaderrocks: But what speed has Thanos shown? Surtur could atleast track Thor while he was zipping around.

It depends on how powerful the user is, Thanos doesn't have endless power. Also having the other stones amplify the powers a stone, Thanos only has one here. No way could he snap half the universe really not anyone with just the power stone by itself.

Because Celestial >>> Thanos

Well not really, I used reasonable scaling. Never did I say Surtur would be 100 million more times powerful just because he can walk straight.

@jagerzi: Surtur wasn't tracking Thor at all. Thor was mainly just throwing his hammer at him and only flew at the end but Surtur didn't even know where he was until he turned around. Surtur's reaction speed is slow. Thanos while blind was fighting Strange and Drax at the same time and beat both of them. Also his hand was up the second Loki tried to stab him with his dagger and when Iron Man tried to get him with his repulsor beams.

No it doesn't. As long as you're strong enough to actually wield the Stone you can do whatever you want to do with it. It increases all your attributes to insane levels.

Who said anything about snapping the universe? This is a fight lmao

Celestial used the Power Stone to wipe the surface of a planet so that doesn't work here.

What scaling? You just started assuming. A healthy Surtur doesn't exist in the MCU at least not on screen.

Round 1: Thanos

Round 2: sorry but wat is a 'healthy surtur'

round 3: surtur

R1: This version of Thanos has no feats.

R2: This version of Thanos AND Surtur has no feats.

R3: This version of Surtur has no feats.

This gauntlet is just a wank competition because putting an argument is impossible for any of the rounds.

@darthvaderrocks: Surtur still tanked all his attacks and pressured him. Thanos can't move like Thor. Thanos had to use the gauntlet to catch Loki and fought two mediocres

Thanos can't use unlimited power of any stone and definitely not enough to whoop Surtur effortlessly.

Nope all I did was use common sense which anyone can use. A healthy Surtur won't be walking with a limp and injured arm.

@turr: Learn to read. Your first two statements are wrong and the last one is hilariously wrong. Eternal flame Surtur is faar from featless. We saw Thanos stomp Hulk and engage in h2h, we also saw an injured Surtur tank multiple blows from lightning Mjolnir and overwhelm Thor briefly. Nobody here is featless.

@jagerzi: All you gotta do is knock that crown off his head and He's done. If you really think about it he's one of the more easier villains to beat

Thanos isn't that much slower than Thor when he isn't in flight. Thor isn't really that fast. I'd say Loki is faster.

That doesn't really mean much as it's all about his reaction time, not what he actually used to stop it.

Still beat both of them while blind.

Except he can. That's literally what the Power Stone is lmao.

Still no feats

@darthvaderrocks: NOOOOOOOOO