Rules:

• 
  ONLY SIMON is bloodlusted, others aren't


• STTGL are fully-healed at the start of each rounds


• 616 version for Marvel characters & composite version (pre-Crisis, post-Crisis, New 52 & Rebirth) for DC characters


• Random encounter


• Standard gear


• Win by any means

GAUNTLET:

R1: Sentry

R2: Dr. Manhattan

R3: Doomsday

R4: Hal Jordan Green Lantern

R5: DC trinity

R6: Silver Surfer

R7: Thanos

R8: Darkseid

R9: Galactus

Final round: Dormammu

Bonus round: Odin

Who beats them & why?

Could stop at 9 or 10, but it should clear.

@amberprice: Bloodlusting Simon automatically amps the other characters. That's basically all he does as a pilot, just giving speeches and pep talks to build morale...and the only reaction anyone ever has to seeing him froth at the mouth with confidence is to start frothing at the mouth themselves lol.

What I'm saying is they're all either bloodlusted or not, because they work like a single cohesive unit. Even when they cant communicate conventionally, they can be influenced just by feeling another's spiral energy and (this is unclear to me:) either the emotions carried in the energy or simply just the carried logical implication that "if x is producing this much energy, that means he's confident even in this situation and that in turn makes me confident".

@thelocust619: what do you think on the gauntlet btw? Where do they stop?/do they clear?

Clears.

It clears.

@amberprice: I'm no expert on the challengers, but anyone lacking probability manipulation can't even really fight back. N I thought I heard current Doc Manhattan like...secretly created the DC universe or something?

Regardless, they need probability manip to tango at all n must be decently over universal to overpower it. If anyone here is, they win but from the little I understand most here arent, save Dormammu and Odin according to some but not others.

Someone please knowledge bomb me

@thelocust619: tbh, Manhattan still doesn't have annie feats yet besides "creating" the New 52 & Rebirth timelines. Mxy is scared of him/some shit tho

Clear.

Clears

@thelocust619: reality manipulation completely ignores it...

You can’t really argue probably matters to it, since probability is more along manipulating the logic of reality, and inverting the odd of things happening or not happening...

reality manipulation is forcing reality to change to better accommodate you.

@thelocust619 said:

Odin has plenty of feats to put him at universal level and maybe even above, going from his fight against Seth to Oblivion. Like I also said many times, Odin is canonically equal to Surtur with the Twilight Sword as shown from their stalemates many times, the Twilight Sword just by itself is already capable of destroying the universe according to Thor- Asgard's Avenger. Dormammu is above universal as well, I'm actually making a respect thread for him and probably will post today, I can tag you in case you wanna see his feats since I don't want to spoil anything now.

Tag me too please

@andromeda101: @kingfrieza:

Kingfrieza, u are correct. I forgot to mention higher powers could also negate PM.

Andromeda, I'd appreciate the tag. Dormammu I've heard things from universal to multiversal but then someone's always arguing universe vs dimension or something but I'm inclined to think he's basically akin to a better Antispiral. It's more Odin Im doubting, I've seen alot of people pretty adamant about him being galaxy tier. It'd be nice to be able to make the distinction myself without buying every comic he's every been in lol

Stops at 1, he can't beat a multiversal+ buster.

@thelocust619: I don't know why that doubt even exists tho. Sure, I admit some of Dormammu's feats such as absorbing realities with Umar from the flashbacks of DSSS#22 and Doctor Strange, Master of the Mystic Arts#71 gets hard to quantify since some sources claim those as pocket-universes while others don't, but most don't or at least shouldn't have that issue. We do know the size of the Dark Dimension, for example. Some of his feats are pretty clear to involve full-fledged universes as well like during A+X#15 or defeating beings who operate at such levels like Giraud and others.

Odin, I also don't see the discussion as well, he's been consistently portrayed at such levels aside from when Aaron is the one handling him.

Sure.

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